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Re: Second Anglo-Afghan War 1878-80
« Reply #54 on: Thursday 17 December 09 16:15 GMT (UK) »
Annie, Thank you so much for the exerpt from the book which I had not seen.   The information fits with details of his letter as he said they arrived in Suakin on the 19th and on the 21st had embarked on a ship at noon and were to arrive at their destination at 5pm which fits the movement from Suakin to Trinkitat.

If anyone has access to the records for the 10th Hussars in Afghanistan and the Sudan I would appreciate it if they could look for any entry for Arthur Rowland Thomas O'Regan or possibly Roland O'Regan.   The M-I Battery Royal Artillery is another possibility for his unit if he's not in the 10th Hussars.      Tom
Cheshire, Shropshire, Staffordshire, Worcestershire: Edwards, O'Regan, Brewster, Jones, Pitt
Kent: Warde, Francis, Woodgate
Ireland: O'Regan (co. Clare), Bateman (co. Kerry)
South America: O'Regan
Canada (Quebec, NB): Sayers, Sayer, Taylor

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« Reply #55 on: Monday 18 January 10 05:14 GMT (UK) »
I have been attempting to find out more about Sergeant George Sim of the 78th Highlanders, who was in the second Afghan War. I believe his number is 1464, as it is engraved on the side of his campaign medal. He was in Halifax Nova Scotia from 1869-1871; he married Caroline Gardner in 1871 and left Halifax. I think their children were born in Ireland, Dover, England and Poonah, India. He is said to have died of sunstroke in Afghanistan. I would like to know more about when and where he died, and his movements with the regiment. It is somewhat shocking to think that his wife moved around with him, but it clear that she did.  She eventually returned to Halifax with her children, although some seem to have returned later than she did.

If anyone can direct me to a good source, or has any information, I would be very grateful. Unfortunately I do not live in the UK so I can't hand-search any archives; I have to rely on the Internet for now.

Hi there Cathibea I am wondering if you are able to see this post or if you can reply back to me?
I am thinking you might be a realative to the Sim Clan?
Is there a way we can exchange emails just to see, would like to know what else you know about the Sim's?

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Re: Second Anglo-Afghan War 1878-80
« Reply #56 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 12:04 GMT (UK) »
Hello

I would like to know if the following chap received an Afghan War Medal.

He was private William Richard Joseph 10B/1045, 2nd Battalion, West Yorkshire Regiment.

His surname was sometimes wrongly spelt as Josephs.

Thank you in advance.

Ravelin

Hello Ravelin - I don't see a Joseph/Josephs on the Afghan War medal roll for the 14th Foot (West Yorkshire). Do you have any more info on his whereabouts c.1878-80?

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« Reply #57 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 12:48 GMT (UK) »
Hello Garen, I'm hoping you can help me with a search that so far has turned up nothing.  My gg-uncle served in the second afghan war but I've drawn a blank on finding him anywhere.   His name was Arthur Rowland Thomas O'Regan although he seemed to go by Roland O'Regan, born 1856 in Donington Woods, Shropshire.  What I know is that he served in Afghanistan and participated in a march under severe conditions where the men were limited to 1 cup of water a day.  I thought this was the Kabul-Kandahar march but none of the units fit with his subsequent service.  On leaving India his unit shipped out on the HMS Jumna and when they arrived at Aden in Feb. 1884 were sent to Suakin in the Sudan to be part of Graham's relief of Tokar.   I have a letter he wrote to his sisters in England dated Feb. 21st (presumably 1884) saying that they were headed to relieve Tokar in the Sudan with the 60th Rifles and the 2nd Brigade Royal Irish Fusiliers, so I presume he was not part of those units.

My first problem is to find his regiment and looking at the units in Afghanistan and the Sudan, I suspect it could be the 10th Hussars.   Do you have a record of what units shipped on the HMS Jumna from Afghanistan (or India?) to return to England in Jan/Feb 1884?   The other mystery is that he refers to getting "another medal" in his letter which suggests he received a medal in Afghanistan but his name doesn't appear on the medal rolls (at least not that I've been able to find).    I would greatly appreciate any help in finding him in the records or suggestions of where best to look fo rhim.    Tom

Hello Tom

I'd be interested in narrowing down dome of your info, if that's all right. I need to establish how you know he served in Afghanistan - from the info you've given ("one cup of water a day") it indicates a letter? Are you able to say when this was written? Are any place-names mentioned?

Can you give more context about the "other medal", eg. how it relates to Afghanistan?

My first thoughts about him being on a long dry march would be with Phayre's column from Quetta to Kandahar in August 1880 - but there were many other opportunities too.

Many thanks, best wishes - Garen
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« Reply #58 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 12:52 GMT (UK) »
hi garen,

my gggf was involed in the boer war with the 42nd bty RFA but was in India before that im wondering if you have any information on the 42nd RFA/RA/RGA? in india.

thanx

Hello yogib - sorry I can't be any help with that, I'm afraid - the 42nd RFA was post-Afghan war, so a bit outside my area.

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« Reply #59 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 13:05 GMT (UK) »
Does anybody know if Isaac Webster survived the attack in his tent mentioned in The Bugle on 1st Feb 1979 (discussed near the start of this forum)

Yes, he did indeed survive. He was discharged from the Army in January 1880.

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« Reply #60 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 16:12 GMT (UK) »
Hello Garen

I do have the army records of William Richard Joseph. As you probably know the West Yorkshire Regiment were formally the 14th Buckinghamshire regiment and William was formerly in the 1st Battallion 14th Buckinghanshire Regiment, Private 1168 before it changed over to West Yorkshire. I am not sure what date the title changed to West Yorkshire so i am now unsure if William took part in the Afghan war.

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« Reply #61 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 16:31 GMT (UK) »
Hello Ravelin,

Ah yes - he was with the 1st Battalion 14th. It was the 2nd Battalion that saw service in Afghanistan. The names changed in 1881.

Best wishes - Garen
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« Reply #62 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 16:37 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Garen.