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Charles (Edward or Ernest) Fitgerald/Austin - Who Was He?
« on: Saturday 09 January 21 18:11 GMT (UK) »
I find this person initially in the 1881 census as Charles A Fitzgerald, a visitor (on his own) with my 2nd great uncle and his wife James Austin & Ellen Willcocks (RG11; Piece: 707; Folio: 87; Page: 30) as a 6 year old scholar with, I think a birthplace of Surrey, Pulboro (Ellen Willcocks has a birthplace of Surrey, Boro in this census).

By 1891 (RG12; Piece: 497; Folio: 67; Page: 58) he is still with James & Ellen Austin as Charles E Austin, their 16 year old son and similarly in 1901 (RG13; Piece: 524; Folio: 138; Page: 55 both times noted with a birthplace of Pulborough initially in Sussex and subsequently in Essex.

By 1911 he is making his own way in the world with a wife and daughter with a birthplace of Pulborough, Sussex and I have all the info I need from then on.

I think I have him living at 200 Adelaide Avenue, Lewisham as a retired despatch clerk in a household on his own with a birthdate of 27 Dec 1874 on the 1939 register.

What I am really trying to find is where he came from?  I can't find a birth registration or baptism for him.  The fact that he is noted as a Fitzgerald in 1881 is interesting in that James' Austin's elder brother William Austin had married in Jun 1890 to widow Charlotte Fitzgerald (née Mason) who had several Fitzgerald sons from her Oct 1871 marriage to Robert Fitzgerald. Could he be anything to do with this?

If anybody could please help find either a registration or a baptism for Charles this would clarify matters.

Thanks, Pheno

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Re: Charles (Edward or Ernest) Fitgerald/Austin - Who Was He?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 January 21 22:28 GMT (UK) »
What name did he marry under?  No info given re name of spouse so can’t look it up.  Did he name a father on his marriage cert?  Did you check GRO online for Fitzgerald births with mmn Mason

The Fitzgerald/Mason marriage was 1871 Greenwich

1881 birthplace for him is Pulborough Sussex
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Re: Charles (Edward or Ernest) Fitgerald/Austin - Who Was He?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 January 21 22:44 GMT (UK) »
He names his father as James Austin and marries as Charles Edward Austin - 23 Jun 1907 St Paul Deptford Lewisham

Spouse Florence Helena Crowdy
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Charles (Edward or Ernest) Fitgerald/Austin - Who Was He?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 January 21 22:57 GMT (UK) »
Died as Charles Edward Austin 1947 - where did Ernest come from?
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Re: Charles (Edward or Ernest) Fitgerald/Austin - Who Was He?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 January 21 22:58 GMT (UK) »
Charlotte Fitzgerald nee Mason had sons George in Jun 1874 and Frank in Sep 1876 just to see the dates. 
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Charles (Edward or Ernest) Fitgerald/Austin - Who Was He?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 January 21 23:05 GMT (UK) »
The 1939 entry you mention is shown as married but no wife in household.  Florence is living at another address with their daughter.  Only appears to be one child born to the marriage
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