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Calling Criminal Experts
« on: Saturday 09 January 21 20:13 GMT (UK) »
Blimey I found another one.

Not a direct ancestor but one of the brothers.

https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?div=t18390408-1154

Is there a way to find out if George was transported?
Where was he sent?
How did he get there?
If he was did he return?

Thanks in advance
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Wifes Side:Burningham, Hill, Sanger, Morrison, Mulholland, Legg, Lake, Ewence, Gurd, Bowden.
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Re: Calling Criminal Experts
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 January 21 20:54 GMT (UK) »
 ;D

Blimey I found another one.

Not a direct ancestor but one of the brothers.

https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?div=t18390408-1154

Is there a way to find out if George was transported?
Where was he sent?
How did he get there?
If he was did he return?

Thanks in advance

 ;D  ;D  ;D

I am not a criminal, I am not an expert, but  :D  .... in general terms, transportation to the then colony of

A) New South Wales  effectively ceased 1840.  (NSW at that time included today's eastern states of Queensland, NSW, Victoria plus the Aust. Capital Territory, Northern Territory, Norfolk Island and ... New Zealand).   
and
B) Tasmania ...effectively ceased convictism mid 1850s when Queen Victoria signed of on  Van Diemans Land 's written constitutional document.

If you were to start a thread on the Australia Board asking your question I am sure there will be plenty of people able to follow up.

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Re: Calling Criminal Experts
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 January 21 21:33 GMT (UK) »
He wasn't transported. A petition for clemency was submitted, and he was pardoned. See this link ...
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C16837862

You'll find the original pardon (from HO 17, with signatures) is on FindMyPast, in the database England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935.


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Re: Calling Criminal Experts
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 January 21 21:41 GMT (UK) »
But before he was pardoned he experienced life on board the hulks:

George Preedy was received on board the "York" prison hulk, moored at Gosport, on 3rd May 1839.  He was transferred to Plymouth on 10th Jan 1840 (Prison Hulk Registers and Letter Books, 1802-1849, on A******y).
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Re: Calling Criminal Experts
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 January 21 10:45 GMT (UK) »
Morning all,

We had a slight smattering of snow over night (about 1 mm and looks more like frost) so off to my local cemetery for a few photos. This is my first chance of a look at the replies (I keep a tab open all the time with one line thread of mine on it to refer to even when I am not doing FH).

Thank you all VERY much. @Majm from the other replies he stayed in England but thanks for the tip.

He wasn't transported. A petition for clemency was submitted, and he was pardoned. See this link ...
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C16837862

You'll find the original pardon (from HO 17, with signatures) is on FindMyPast, in the database England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935.

Awesome thank you.  :)
I have now looked through at that page and when I am thawed out and had lunch I'll check out the FindMyPast link on there.

But before he was pardoned he experienced life on board the hulks:

George Preedy was received on board the "York" prison hulk, moored at Gosport, on 3rd May 1839.  He was transferred to Plymouth on 10th Jan 1840 (Prison Hulk Registers and Letter Books, 1802-1849, on A******y).

I have Ancestry now. I'll have a look when I have eaten.  :)

Right off to Sainsbury's then lunch then an afternoon in the warm with the laptop and a couple of cups of Yorkshire Tea :)
Hugkulstone: All
Stogdon, Preedy, Harris, Jenkins, Thaler, Vail, Brown (Whitby), Browne (Sussex), Infield, Feldwick, Knowles, Dodman, Nicholls, Anderson, Dell, Brooker, Purvey, Gibb, Cox.
Wifes Side:Burningham, Hill, Sanger, Morrison, Mulholland, Legg, Lake, Ewence, Gurd, Bowden.
And Whitby Town Players.
Blog: https://neilsfhsite.wordpress.com