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Information on two 19th century clergymen
« on: Monday 11 January 21 20:50 GMT (UK) »
   I am hoping someone has access to lists of clergymen. I am trying to sort out two men, father and son, who seem to have swapped livings between them. They were James Coling and his son Richard James Coling, and the livings were Stow Maries in Essex and Chillenden in Kent. As far as I can make out, they swapped livings in 1869, then James remained in Essex and Richard in Kent until father died, when Richard went to Essex. I don't think either can have been in the original places for more than a year or so, then there was an added complication in Chillenden with the appointment of James Marryat briefly in 1868.
   This has all been gleaned from newspaper reports, and I have checked the parish records, but find no sign of Coling senior.
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Codham/Coltham, Kent
Kent, Felton, Essex
Staples, Wiltshire

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Re: Information on two 19th century clergymen
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 January 21 20:58 GMT (UK) »
This might help if he was ordained in the first half of the 19th century but it only runs to 1835

https://theclergydatabase.org.uk/
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Re: Information on two 19th century clergymen
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 January 21 21:54 GMT (UK) »
I've been through the clergy listing and can't see them or alternative spellings.

The last entry for Chillenden was in 1828 - curate was Francis Hayles Wollaston

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Re: Information on two 19th century clergymen
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 January 21 22:37 GMT (UK) »
  That database is too early - the father was still at college in 1841. Is that the only on-line list of clergy? My brain got quite addled last night, trying to work out who was where when, and I only started on it after looking at the picture of the church you helped with! I presume Coling junior was responsible for the restoration of the church, and I wondered if it could be his son in the picture, but he didn't have one.
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Re: Information on two 19th century clergymen
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 January 21 22:52 GMT (UK) »
I did say it was early but it's the only one I know of.
I've used it for some of my ancestors.
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Re: Information on two 19th century clergymen
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 January 21 22:56 GMT (UK) »
Individual churches often have lists of clergy. Also parish records often have their names/signatures in them.
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Re: Information on two 19th century clergymen
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 January 21 08:46 GMT (UK) »
Under normal circumstances, your local library or archives may have a copy of "Crockford's Clerical Directory".

You can find in there a (shorthand!) biography of each cleric.
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Re: Information on two 19th century clergymen
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 12 January 21 09:14 GMT (UK) »
Some editions of Crockford are on line, I think on Ancestry.
Try also searching for them on Alumni Cantabrigienses and Alumni Oxonienses
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Re: Information on two 19th century clergymen
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 12 January 21 09:31 GMT (UK) »
For most of the C19th clergy in the CofE needed to be university graduates. So college records are always the place to look for information on them.

James Coling appears in the records of St Johns, Cambridge in 1847 ( described as s of Richard, Gent of Banbury).

Richard James Coling is in the same college list in 1862  ( described as s of James, linen-draper of Chipping Norton).

Both are mentioned as being at Chillenden, Kent and Stow Maries in Essex at different times.

I would guess they are related, but don't appear to be father/son.