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Re: Information on two 19th century clergymen
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 13 January 21 13:36 GMT (UK) »
In 1861, Sarah seems to be called Margaret

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Re: Information on two 19th century clergymen
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 13 January 21 13:37 GMT (UK) »
   1843 Q3 he married Sarah Mary Doyly Heynes, Chipping Norton.

It's from transcriptions of this record set

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Add - the marriage should be there too.

I've just found it in the images at Ancestry - 25 Jul 1843:
James Coling, a linen draper of Stratford-upon-Avon; Mary Sarah D'oyly Heynes of Chipping Norton; both full age and fathers are gentlemen.
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Re: Information on two 19th century clergymen
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 13 January 21 13:48 GMT (UK) »
I'm not sure how accurate this is, or if you've seen it, but throwing it in the mix

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Re: Information on two 19th century clergymen
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 13 January 21 14:16 GMT (UK) »
  The linen draper keeps cropping up, but James may have been in his father's business before he was ordained. His father died in 1846, so that may have freed him to train for the church. Some records I have seen but not saved seem to show that Richard senior c1791 - 1846 had moved to Stratford late in his life.
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Re: Information on two 19th century clergymen
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 13 January 21 14:20 GMT (UK) »
GRO index: Richard Coling aged 56 died Dec qtr 1846 Stratford on Avon (16/443)
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Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 13 January 21 14:25 GMT (UK) »
What occupation did James have on the 1841? His father, Richard,  is down as a Gentleman on the marriage entry.

Add - I had a look at the Shrewsbury, St Chad registers and he is recorded against quite a few entries
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Re: Information on two 19th century clergymen
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 13 January 21 14:27 GMT (UK) »
  He was at Stepney college.  Does that invalidate my theory - he must have been heading for the church then, but the Baptist Church.
  Was that when he was curate at St Chad?
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Re: Information on two 19th century clergymen
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 13 January 21 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Stepney College would seem to confirm a Baptist connection (though he doesn't appear in the list of students at this site):

https://dissacad.english.qmul.ac.uk/sample1.php?detail=achist&histid=25&acadid=183

In those days it would have been a case of either Baptist or C of E, not a bit of both.

Richard Coling senior left a fairly lengthy will, proved PCC 1847, which might be of interest. I also tried looking at TNA's Discovery for "James Coling" and came up with a few results that allude to some of what we've been discussing:

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_dss=range&_sd=1800&_ed=1900&_q=%22james+coling%22
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Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Information on two 19th century clergymen
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 13 January 21 16:34 GMT (UK) »
  Thanks for those pieces. I wonder why he does not appear at the college - he was there in the 1841 census.
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