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Re: Hubert John Hawkins - Service Number 31194
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 14 January 21 03:42 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for your responses.

The reason I know it's Hubert John Hawkins is because of the newspaper clip of his wedding to our ancestor Phyllis Mary Crawford (attached). I know she remarried another soldier (William Van Horne) but did not know why and - this second marriage happened in 1956. The military pension card in my OP came from an Ancestry hint. That's the only information i have and am searching for more, including birth records, marriage records, etc...

So am I to understand there are two individuals with the same service member?
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Re: Hubert John Hawkins - Service Number 31194
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 14 January 21 06:28 GMT (UK) »
“Your” Hubert John Hawkins must be a different man.   The one who died WW1 would obviously not be marrying in 1948.


Possible births that might be him

HAWKINS, HUBERT  JOHN  mother’s maiden name    BEESLEY 
GRO Reference: 1914  S Quarter in HEADINGTON  Volume 03A  Page 2177

HAWKINS, HUBERT  JOHN    Mother’s maiden name TRIGG 
GRO Reference: 1917  J Quarter in FAVERSHAM  Volume 02A  Page 1530

HAWKINS, HUBERT  JOHN     mother’s maiden name GRINDLE 
GRO Reference: 1921  S Quarter in MONMOUTH  Volume 11A  Page 48
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Re: Hubert John Hawkins - Service Number 31194
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 14 January 21 06:34 GMT (UK) »
Your clip says parents are Mr A.H.

There is this marriage

Marriages Dec 1913   (>99%)
Beesley    Florence K    Hawkins    Oxford    3a   2105   
Hawkins    Arthur H    Beesley    Oxford    3a   2105   
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Re: Hubert John Hawkins - Service Number 31194
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 14 January 21 06:39 GMT (UK) »
Hubert and Phyllis are on a passenger list returning to UK from New York last address Malaya 1950

Address in UK 111 Botley Road Oxford.
She is 32 he is 35 and an electrical engineer


From baptism father is Arthur Hubert and mother is Florence Kate


added - in October of the same year, they are going back to Malaya via Singapore.
Phyllis is only 28 this time :-)
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Re: Hubert John Hawkins - Service Number 31194
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 14 January 21 08:12 GMT (UK) »
Service Numbers in WW2 were 8-digit numbers ;D
(I think that changed in 1920?)

Ancestry hints are all very well, but they aren't all that accurate!
They need to be treated with a huge pinch of salt ;D
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Re: Hubert John Hawkins - Service Number 31194
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 14 January 21 09:13 GMT (UK) »
It looks as though A Hubert John HAWKINS (but as we have seen there are several) was a temporary electrical Lieutenant in the Navy. Stays on in the volunteer reserve post war.  That would explain how Phyllis met him if that is the man.

It does fit with him being an electrical engineer
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Re: Hubert John Hawkins - Service Number 31194
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 14 January 21 10:09 GMT (UK) »
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So am I to understand there are two individuals with the same service member?

No - just two men named H J Hawkins who each married a girl named Phyllis Mary, 35 years apart.

There is a wedding photo of your couple in the Straits Times of 22 March 1949

https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/Digitised/Article/straitstimes19490322-1.2.84
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Re: Hubert John Hawkins - Service Number 31194
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 14 January 21 10:21 GMT (UK) »
He had a sister Jeanne Mary Hawkins b 1918. Trained as a nurse. She married Robert Hugh Percival. A doctor.

Their wedding photograph The Tatler 17 September 1941
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Re: Hubert John Hawkins - Service Number 31194
« Reply #17 on: Friday 15 January 21 04:14 GMT (UK) »
You all are amazing!

Mckha489, how are you finding this info ??? Where ??? Some pointer please :)
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