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Help requested to identify surname in 1624 Cheshire Will.
« on: Tuesday 12 January 21 16:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Please could somebody help me identify the surname on the attached picture ? The initial letter has me stumped - it does not appear anywhere else in the Will nor in my 'Secretary Hand ABC Book' that I use for reference. If it is not a surname, what word is it ?
Thank you in advance for any assistance.
Simon
(1) Janions of Cheshire, Lancashire, Hawaii, Vancouver and Seattle.
(2) Gregorys of Tarporley, Cheshire.
(3) Pughs of 'The New Pale' near Frodsham and Delamere in Cheshire.
(4) Nevills of Llanelly, Llangennech and Felinfoel.
(5) Yaldens of Ovington/Lovington in Hampshire.

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Re: Help requested to identify surname in 1624 Cheshire Will.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 January 21 16:20 GMT (UK) »
Simon, please make another clip with less zoom (about half what it is now) and covering a greater area so we have the context.

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Re: Help requested to identify surname in 1624 Cheshire Will.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 January 21 16:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Here is my first draft of the whole document.
I will do a screen grab as requested.
Simon
(1) Janions of Cheshire, Lancashire, Hawaii, Vancouver and Seattle.
(2) Gregorys of Tarporley, Cheshire.
(3) Pughs of 'The New Pale' near Frodsham and Delamere in Cheshire.
(4) Nevills of Llanelly, Llangennech and Felinfoel.
(5) Yaldens of Ovington/Lovington in Hampshire.


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Re: Help requested to identify surname in 1624 Cheshire Will.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 January 21 16:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi, again,
As requested, here is a wider zoom.
Let me know if you want me to do a different area.
Thank you for your interest.
Simon
(1) Janions of Cheshire, Lancashire, Hawaii, Vancouver and Seattle.
(2) Gregorys of Tarporley, Cheshire.
(3) Pughs of 'The New Pale' near Frodsham and Delamere in Cheshire.
(4) Nevills of Llanelly, Llangennech and Felinfoel.
(5) Yaldens of Ovington/Lovington in Hampshire.

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Re: Help requested to identify surname in 1624 Cheshire Will.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 January 21 16:42 GMT (UK) »
I think it might be 'G' - I've come across a slightly similar one as in the clip below, though mine has a more upright style.

In fact you have one a bit like that too, near the start of the 3rd line up.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Help requested to identify surname in 1624 Cheshire Will.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 January 21 16:58 GMT (UK) »
I also think it's a G of the form seen in George.

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Re: Help requested to identify surname in 1624 Cheshire Will.
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 January 21 17:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi, both,
Well, I feel a bit foolish after that !
Thank you, both, for your help.
If possible, could you give me your thoughts on what John's surname is ?
Simon
(1) Janions of Cheshire, Lancashire, Hawaii, Vancouver and Seattle.
(2) Gregorys of Tarporley, Cheshire.
(3) Pughs of 'The New Pale' near Frodsham and Delamere in Cheshire.
(4) Nevills of Llanelly, Llangennech and Felinfoel.
(5) Yaldens of Ovington/Lovington in Hampshire.

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Re: Help requested to identify surname in 1624 Cheshire Will.
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 12 January 21 17:22 GMT (UK) »
Looking at the words expences and discharged, I think it is:  Grices

Does the possessive fit in context?

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Re: Help requested to identify surname in 1624 Cheshire Will.
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 12 January 21 17:47 GMT (UK) »
I have found Grice, Gryce and Grace locally but a search for any John by those surnames does not reveal a spouse with the surname Janion or any variant thereof. There is also no Probate that might match but the record of such a marriage might simply be missing.
Any other thoughts/comments welcome. If not, I fear I might have to draw a line on this person just for now.
Thank you once again.
Simon
(1) Janions of Cheshire, Lancashire, Hawaii, Vancouver and Seattle.
(2) Gregorys of Tarporley, Cheshire.
(3) Pughs of 'The New Pale' near Frodsham and Delamere in Cheshire.
(4) Nevills of Llanelly, Llangennech and Felinfoel.
(5) Yaldens of Ovington/Lovington in Hampshire.