Brick Wall - POLLARD, London

[Annette7]

Thomas Harris Pollard was in Worcestershire from 1861

He's in Shoreditch in 1871.

In 1871 he's in Worcestershire with wife Louisa.

Annette

[Ladyhawk]

In 1881 the two boys were born in Clerkenwell and Islington.  There are no births registered under POLLARD.

HARRIS, THOMAS  EDWARD
Mother's maiden surname: MERLE     
GRO Reference: 1864  J Quarter in CLERKENWELL  Volume 01B  Page 554

HARRIS, HENRY ALFRED
Mother's maiden surname: MERLE     
GRO Reference: 1869  J Quarter in ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 341

Debra 

Their daughter Martha born Jan 8th 1871
private bapt. 15 May 1871 St James, Hackney
father Thomas POLLARD, occ. boot maker, mother Martha abode 65 Long Alley

POLLARD, MARTHA  HARRIS   mmn MERLE
1871  M Quarter in SHOREDITCH  Volume 01C  Page 68   

Thomas Pollard born April 7th 1864
Henry Pollard born April 16th 1869
Baptism 7 May 1872 England, Shoreditch St James, Hackney
Father:   Thomas Pollard, shoe maker Mother: Martha abode 65 Long Alley

EDIT to add Martha’s death entry

Martha Harris Pollard died age 7
1878 Mar Holborn London Volume:   1b Page:   570

[Suzy100]

Thomas Harris Pollard was in Worcestershire from 1861

He's in Shoreditch in 1871.

In 1871 he's in Worcestershire with wife Louisa.

Annette


Definitely in Shoreditch in 1871
Thomas Harris   Pollard   38   1833   Head   Cripplegate, Middlesex   Boot Maker         
Louisa   Pollard   40   1831   Wife   Greenwich, Kent   Laundress

[cuffie81]

I don't want to confuse matters any further but who is this Thomas Harris Pollard?

London Evening Standard
09 Jan 1865
page 7, column 5
Police Intelligence Of Saturday
A Hot Reception
- Thomas Harris Pollard
- aged 59
- journey shoemaker
- charged with stealing 2 quart pots
- from Blue Bull public house, Long Alley, Shoreditch
- witness: Joseph Goulston,
- manager of house for Mrs Day, landlady,
- stated that Pollard was a known customer
- after Pollard left bar the quart pots were missing
- knowing where Pollard lodged, Goulston and his wife went to the property
- and knocked on the door
- Pollard partly open the door and when accused of the theft, denied it
- Goulston's wife ran down stairs to find a police constable when
- a window was opened and something fell to the court
- Goulston's wife and the police constable returned with a frying pan and
- cake of pewter in it, which Goulston believed to be his pots
- witness: Constable Slaughter, 411 A division, stated he found
- portions of another pot in Pollard's room, marked "T.M.K." and
- melted pewter on carpet and window ledge
- Pollard pleaded his innocence and was remanded for trial


EDIT:
Story is covered in other newspapers and dates. The London Evening Standard (17 Jan 1865) states Pollard was aged 57, a bootmaker, address Leg Alley. And that he was found guilty, sentence deferred.

[ShaunJ]

Long Alley, Shoreditch

So that address crops up for both Thomas Harris Pollard in 1865 and for young Thomas Pollard at his baptism in 1872.

[ShaunJ]

In 1871 he's in Worcestershire with wife Louisa.

That's a completely different Thomas Pollard. So many Ancestry members have got that wrong in their public trees.

[Ladyhawk]

In 1871 he's in Worcestershire with wife Louisa.

That's a completely different Thomas Pollard. So many Ancestry members have got that wrong in their public trees.

From what I can see we have two Thomas Pollard’s married to a Louisa

(Worcester ) Thomas Pollard & Louisa her mn TUMMEY (Birth Reg dau Alice 1869 Worcester), they appear to have married Sep 1858 Manchester Louisa surname TOMMEY

1851 census Louisa TUMMEY age 17 born Malverne with her parents James & Susan

Thomas Harris Pollard age 24 & Louisa (mn CLEGHORN), her father Alexander,
his Thomas Harris Pollard, both cordwainers, they married 1856 Hackney

Martha CLEGHORN married Charles Henry MERLE in 1838 Hackney,
her father named Thomas Cleghorn

EDIT to confirm marriage of Louisa Tommey/Tummey to Thomas Pollard details from
Lancashire OPC

20 Jul 1858 St Mary the Virgin, Prestwich, Lancashire
Thomas Pollard age 26 occ Butcher, Lees Road, Oldham
Father William Pollard, butcher

Louisa Tommey Age 24, Henshaw Street, Oldham
father James Tommey, Farmer
Witnesses William Blackburn; Sarah Chadwick

[ShaunJ]

Thomas Harris Pollard age 24 & Louisa (mn CLEGHORN), her father Alexander, his Thomas Harris Pollard, both cordwainers, they married 1856 Hackney

Martha CLEGHORN married Charles Henry MERLE in 1838 Hackney, her father named Thomas Cleghorn

My goodness these coincidences are piling up fast aren't they!

[Ladyhawk]

Thomas Harris Pollard age 24 & Louisa (mn CLEGHORN), her father Alexander, his Thomas Harris Pollard, both cordwainers, they married 1856 Hackney

Martha CLEGHORN married Charles Henry MERLE in 1838 Hackney, her father named Thomas Cleghorn

My goodness these coincidences are piling up fast aren't they!

Her full name from 1856 m/c
Louisa Mary Marchant Cleghorn age 26 , both have same address 21 Windsor Street