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Offline George Shaw

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Shaw Brewing Family Of Leigh And Dukinfield
« on: Saturday 23 January 21 14:04 GMT (UK) »
Please find attached the 'head' of a family tree which contains gaps that I'm trying to fill. Apologies for the non-standard format but it works for me. Please note that James (jnr) had two wives, 1. Emma and 2. Harriet, the latter herself later remarrying to Thomas Hannam. Hope you can help.
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Re: Shaw Brewing Family Of Leigh And Dukinfield
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 23 January 21 22:26 GMT (UK) »
Sorry - but while it may "work for you" as you are familiar with your FH - it's unhelpful & time consuming to anybody else reading it & trying to work it out

Please type it in a normal format setting out exactly what info you have & what you are looking for
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Re: Shaw Brewing Family Of Leigh And Dukinfield
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 23 January 21 23:10 GMT (UK) »
I can see gaps which I presume you are trying to fill but it does help with some context.

I can see this family in 1851 which looks a bit like yours but places are a bit different.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SP9L-968

James Shaw b abt 1788 Saddleworth yorks
Hannah b abt 1785 Longwood Yorks
Hannah abt 1818 Stalybridge
Martha abt 1830 Ashton under Lyne
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Re: Shaw Brewing Family Of Leigh And Dukinfield
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 24 January 21 11:43 GMT (UK) »
I'm trying to fill in some gaps in a family tree which I'm building. It's a tree which starts with a family which founded the Dukinfield Brewery in Dukinfield around 1866 and which later took over the Bedford Brewing & Malting Company in Leigh around 1883. The main business driving force was William Shaw (b. 1822 Ashton-under-Lyne-d. 1889 Ashton-under-Lyne). His parents were James Shaw (b. 1791 Stalybridge-d. unknown) and Hannah Shaw (b. Lepton 1876-d. unknown).

William Shaw (b. 1822 Ashton-under-Lyne-d. 1889 Ashton-under-Lyne) had at least three siblings, Hannah (b. 1815 Ashton-under-Lyne-d. unknown), Martha (b. 1830 Ashton-under-Lyne-d. unknown) and James (b. 1826 Ashton-under-Lyne-d. 1871 Matlock Bridge).

William Shaw (b. 1822 Ashton-under-Lyne-d. 1889 Ashton-under-Lyne) married Elizabeth Lockwood (b. 1826 Lepton-d. 1873 Ashton-under-Lyne) in Oldham in 1848.

James (b. 1826 Ashton-under-Lyne-d. 1871 Matlock Bridge) married Emma Wright (b. 1829 Mosborough-d. unknown) in Ashton-under-Lyne in 1851. James (b. 1826 Ashton-under-Lyne-d. 1871 Matlock Bridge) married for a second time to Harriet Radcliffe (b. 1838 Ashton-under-Lyne-d. 1922 Ashton-under-Lyne) in Ashton-under-Lyne in 1866. Presumably, Emma Wright (b. 1829 Mosborough-d. unknown) died some time close to the date of that second marriage.

I'm trying to discover some missing detail:-

1. Marriage and death details for the couple James and Hannah Shaw.
2. Marriage and death details for the siblings Hannah and Martha Shaw.
3. Death details for James' first wife, Emma Shaw (nee Wright)

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Re: Shaw Brewing Family Of Leigh And Dukinfield
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 24 January 21 11:44 GMT (UK) »
I can see gaps which I presume you are trying to fill but it does help with some context.

I can see this family in 1851 which looks a bit like yours but places are a bit different.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SP9L-968

James Shaw b abt 1788 Saddleworth yorks
Hannah b abt 1785 Longwood Yorks
Hannah abt 1818 Stalybridge
Martha abt 1830 Ashton under Lyne

That looks close, heywood. Thanks.
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Re: Shaw Brewing Family Of Leigh And Dukinfield
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 24 January 21 20:40 GMT (UK) »
Marriage - either civil marriage or registrar attended Ashton under Lyne 1854 http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/marriagesearch.php

Joseph Marsden and Martha Shaw

1861 2996 /80 /11
Tame Valley, Dukinfield

Joseph Marsden   33 yrs Book keeper
Martha Marsden   32 yrs
Mary Hannah Marsden 3 yrs
Eliza Marsden 1 yr
Hannah Shaw mother in law 78 yrs
Hannah Shaw sister in law 44 yrs
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Re: Shaw Brewing Family Of Leigh And Dukinfield
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 24 January 21 20:54 GMT (UK) »
1871 4082 /101/37

Park Road, Dukinfield
Joseph and Martha Marsden and children
Hannah Shaw - sister in law

Also Harriet Shaw with her family and mother M Ratcliffe
There is a Henry Shaw 19 yrs as ‘son’ - might he be James and Emma’s son?

There is a likely death in 1867 for Hannah Shaw 81 yrs, Dukinfield district
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Re: Shaw Brewing Family Of Leigh And Dukinfield
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 04 February 21 15:38 GMT (UK) »
Seems that Emma Wright was divorced by James Shaw and married a chap called Calvert.

Emma Shaw (nee Wright) [1829?-?] (1st. Wife of James Shaw)

"Shaw v. Shaw and Calvert (The Ashton Weekly Reporter, and Stalybridge and Dukinfield Chronicle, 30 July 1864)

This was a suit instituted by the husband [Ed. James Shaw] to obtain a divorce on the ground of his wife's adultery with the co-respondent, and came on for hearing on Thursday, at the Divorce Court, before Sir J.P. Wilde. He also asked for damages.—The parties in this case were married in 1851, the woman being a Miss Emma Wright. They resided at Ashton-under-Lyne, and subsequently at Dukinfield; the petitioner being a brewer's traveller. Some time last year he met with an accident, and was laid up; and while ill his wife became acquainted with Calvert, who was a retired grocer. She afterwards, at the end of last year eloped with him. The respondent and co-respondent had since lived together at Halifax, Manchester, and Blackpool, as man and wife; and in January returned to Dukinfield, where they had since resided.—The jury found a verdict for the petitioner, and assessed the damages at £500."

But still cannot trace specific details of Emma's second marriage and subsequent death.
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Re: Shaw Brewing Family Of Leigh And Dukinfield
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 04 February 21 15:57 GMT (UK) »
Did replies #5 and #6 help you?
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