Elizabeth Ann Donkin born Newcastle c. 1865

[bethanyyd96]

Hi does anyone have access to the original document to a marriage between Charles Eltringham and Elizabeth Ann Donkin? 14 Jun 1886 St Ann, Newcastle. I want to know her father William's occupation for clarification.

On censuses she's born around 1865 in Newcastle, father William Donkin. I can't find a suitable birth registration for this name. I believe she was actually registered under Ann Donkin born 1864 Newcastle to William Donkin, chain maker, and Mary Jane Straker (both apparently died young).

1871 census for Ann Donkin - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5BP-N5G

Haven't been able to find possible 1881 census

1891 census for Elizabeth Ann Donkin - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WJWQ-FW2

1901 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSCT-87B

1911 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWCJ-P6N

After that they are in USA

I have noticed that her name changes from Elizabeth to Annie in the censuses and that she named one of her sons John William, which was the name of Ann Donkin's older brother (mmn Straker).

Any help is appreciated

[maddys52]

Can't help with father's occupation, however, I see on their return to the US in 1913 they nominate George DONKIN of 80 Worley St, Newcastle upon Tyne as nearest relative. Can you connect him to Elizabeth/Annie?

[bethanyyd96]

That's amazing thank you so much!! Ann's brother George Donkin lived there for many years with his family

[maddys52]

That's great, yes he's there on the 1939 register and 1911 census. 

Glad to help!

[softly softly]

It's been an interesting search for the Donkins, and I just wondered a couple of things that you probably have an answer to. When George 1870 married Mary Hannah Laing in 1892 what did he record his father's occ as.

In 1881 Ann/Elizabeths 2 siblings John & George  in the household of a George Donkin & Isabella (nee' Jennings. Interesting census ref RG11 5035 63 4

Are you aware of another 3 Donkin/Straker births other than those known.

Finally are you convinced that William Donkin Ann's father was born in York, I must admit i'm not for various reasons.

John

[softly softly]

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Haven't been able to find possible 1881 census

Possible

RG11/5049/75 p 25

John

[maddys52]

In 1881 Ann/Elizabeths 2 siblings John & George  in the household of a George Donkin & Isabella (nee' Jennings. Interesting census ref RG11 5035 63 4

I don't think this is the household of George DONKIN and Isabella (nee JENNINGS). It is Robert Wilson FORSTER and his wife Isabella (nee DONKIN), who married in 1848. Michael William (25) and Robert Henry (20) are the children of George DONKIN and Isabella (nee JENNINGS)

For interest, on the marriage of Robert Wilson FORSTER and Isabella DONKIN it has her father as George DONKIN, filemaker (on FreeReg)

[maddys52]

Are you aware of another 3 Donkin/Straker births other than those known.

Yes, I saw those too:
D 1865 Barbara             d M 1869
J  1868 James               d M 1869
M 1872 Mary Elizabeth  d S 1876

[maddys52]

Finally are you convinced that William Donkin Ann's father was born in York, I must admit i'm not for various reasons.

In the 1881 he says he from Winlaton, Durham, as is his (presumably) sister Isabella. A long way from York. 

Modified to strike through - sorry, must be looking at too many DONKINs. This one says "57" and unmarried. - Getting myself confused!