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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 26 January 21 00:49 GMT (UK) »
Now looking at Essie's reply #3, it shows the bride's name. ::)
It is QUINN.

So it appears QUINN married QUINN.

This would explain why as a single mother she registered at the lying hospital as QUINN.

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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 26 January 21 08:26 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Sue for that, clearly I missed that take on things. Wouldn't of thought to take it that literally but it makes sense. This changes a lot of what we know in the family and maybe there is something to the Beatrice Osbourne mentioned.

I need to call my mum and go through some of this with her, today may not be the best day for that.
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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 26 January 21 10:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
In 1911 & 1912 Beatrice Cecelia QUINN was in the Destitute Asylum.   That is what the GenealogySA Hospital/Asylum/Lying-in-Homes record has. 
Only other info is that she had relatives in the Colony.
I'm not sure if more info is available if you purchase the record.
Sometimes that is all they contain.

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Ireland: Farrelly, Brady, Bourke/Burke & poss Smyth/Smith, Connor
Scotland: Paterson, MacGregor, Graham
Derbyshire:  Richardson, Bryer
Germany/Prussia:  Hein, Nuske, Milich, Baum
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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 26 January 21 11:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Sashar

Thank you for that, I am looking at the 1911 entry now on film via familysearch. Image 275 of 312.

It has her DOB as 25-1-93.
She is native born and a state child.
Looks like the Mother is Mary Quinn living in a place off Waymouth street?
A brother called James, 21 and sister? Mary, 20. Possibly both state children, It's hard for me to read. Father not stated.
There is a lengthy reason for admission but again I find that hard to read, mentions of a father Frederick Bobble.
Left in November with infant to the State Children's Dept.

Thanks, Ill look up the 1912 entry next.
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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 26 January 21 11:48 GMT (UK) »
From what I can make of the entry:-
She was born in the Institution as Beatrice Osborne and been in State care since the age of 4.  No father named.
Her last place of residence was the Girls Reformatory at Redruth.
Her sister Mary believed employed - Malvern?  not sure about that.

Beatrice names the father of her child as Frederick Bobble, tram driver of Thomas St, Nailsworth.
 She thinks he doesn't know she's pregnant.  To her credit she has saved 10 pounds in a Bank account.  The State will look after her.
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Ireland: Farrelly, Brady, Bourke/Burke & poss Smyth/Smith, Connor
Scotland: Paterson, MacGregor, Graham
Derbyshire:  Richardson, Bryer
Germany/Prussia:  Hein, Nuske, Milich, Baum
Australia: Farrelly, Paterson, Richardson, Hein, Milich, Smith/Smyth

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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 26 January 21 12:02 GMT (UK) »
I can't find any records for the surname BOBBLE but can see BROBBLE.
The surname is mentioned twice on the 1911 Institution record and spelt Brobble the 2nd time.
There is a *Frederick* Hartley BROBBLE b.1894 in Adelaide.
*sorry, should be Frederich on 1894 birth.
Researching:
Ireland: Farrelly, Brady, Bourke/Burke & poss Smyth/Smith, Connor
Scotland: Paterson, MacGregor, Graham
Derbyshire:  Richardson, Bryer
Germany/Prussia:  Hein, Nuske, Milich, Baum
Australia: Farrelly, Paterson, Richardson, Hein, Milich, Smith/Smyth

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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 26 January 21 12:28 GMT (UK) »
Dorothy Beryl Quinn b. 31.5.11 is enrolled at school in 1918 and 1924 as Dorothy Beryl Brobble. Parent named as Frederick Hartley Brobble.
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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 26 January 21 12:40 GMT (UK) »
 :o

Thank you very much for reading that, my eyes are not used to it.

Also thanks for the further info Sashar and Neale, I have found a Dorothy Beryl Quinn in the police Gazettes as well.

So if this Beatrice is indeed my Grandfathers Mother then this changes a lot of what my family know and only offers more questions.

Sylvia is registered at school in 1923 signed in by Beatrice Quinn as well. No mention of a second parent.
I can't find the 1912 asylum book yet, that may have more info possibly on Sylvia.

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France: Buard

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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 26 January 21 17:59 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to Sashars translating I have found the 1893 birth entry for one....

Beatrice Osborne Quinn, 25/1/93
Mother, Mary Quinn
Putative Father, now I find this tough to read but could it be Alick, Aleck, Abeck with a surname of Pepper? Labourer from Bowden. Irish and Roman Catholic.
It says mother and child left in November.

Page 84 of this
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSZQ-J4K9?i=83&cat=2649145
Australia: Quinn, Chant, Ferguson, Bennett
France: Buard