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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 26 January 21 18:30 GMT (UK) »
Mother Mary Quinn's 1892 entry here...
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSZQ-JHDN?i=244&cat=2649145

Mentions Native Born.
A refuge in Norwood I can't read properly.
Mother, Ann Quinn possibly of Hectorville.
Has 4 sisters two with illegitimate children, under care of the state?

The reasons for admission again mention the putative father, maybe Albeck Griffen or Pfieffer, labouruer of Bowden. It says this will be her third illegitimate child of which she had her first before the age of 15.
It then goes on to say that 'The whole family are a bad lot, their mother being of intemperate habits' :o  ;D

hah, I presume that comes from the Sisters of Mercy.

Again mentions leaving in Nov 93 'To seek a situation, did not return'.

If only I could chase Thomas down like this.

Thank you to all once again.
Australia: Quinn, Chant, Ferguson, Bennett
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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 26 January 21 20:35 GMT (UK) »
JBenn, thanks for adding those links. I have transcribed the entries for you.

Register of Admissions to the Destitute Asylum
Quinn, Mary
Age: 19, Native born
Late Place of Residence: Catholic Refuge Norwood
Usual Occupation: Domestic Service
Relatives in the colony: Mother Ann Quinn, widow Hectorville, and four sisters, two of whom have had illegitimate children. Also two illegitimate children under the care of the State Childrens Council.
Nationality: I
Religion; R.C.
Recommendation: Sisters of Mercy, Norwood
Reasons for requiring admission: Enceinte (pregnant), putative father Allick Giffen, Labourer, Bowden.
This will be her third illegitimate child. She was confined of her first before she attained the age of fifteen years.
The whole family are a bad lot, their mother being of intemperate habits.
Date of Admission 29th Dec 1892
Date of Leaving: 10 Nov 1893. Went out to seek a situation, did not return.
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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 26 January 21 20:35 GMT (UK) »
Register of Infants born in the Destitute Asylum
Name of Infant: Quinn, Beatrice Osborne. Registered 3.2.93
Date of Birth: 25 January 1893
Mother’s name: Mary Quinn
Putative Father: Alick Giffin, Labourer, Bowden
Nationality: I
Religion: R.C.
Date of Leaving 10 Nov 93 -  Mother and child left the Destitute Asylum

Added: I wonder if the correct name for the father should be GRIFFIN - Alex/Aleck Griffin
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 26 January 21 20:45 GMT (UK) »
In the Police records and in newspapers there are numerous and regular records from 1897 to 1907 for Mary Quinn being charged / fined / imprisoned - for being drunk in Adelaide or using indecent language.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
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Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)

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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 27 January 21 00:29 GMT (UK) »
Mrs Ann QUINN with four daughters at Bowden!

QUINN Susanna b. 10 Jul 1867
Father: John QUINN
Mother: Ann MAGUIRE
Birth Place/Residence: Port Adelaide
District Code: Ade /  Book: 53 /Page: 542

QUINN Mary b. 17 Aug 1871
Father: John QUINN
Mother: Ann MAGUIRE
Birth Place/Residence: Bowden
District Code: Ade / Book: 100 / Page: 26


QUINN Ann b. 18 Feb 1874
Father: John QUINN
Mother: Ann MAGUIRE
Birth Place/Residence: Bowden
District Code: Hin / Book: 132 / Page: 227

QUINN Catherine b. 11 Jan 1976
Father: John QUINN
Mother: Ann MAGUIRE
Birth Place/Residence: Bowden
District Code: Hin / Book: 161 / Page: 294


All in all, amazing discoveries except for the Pepper link!   

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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 27 January 21 00:42 GMT (UK) »
All in all, amazing discoveries except for the Pepper link!   

I wonder if PEPPER was a name she used after the split with her husband. She may have been living with a partner, named Pepper. She would take his name and pretend they were husband and wife to avoid any scandal and gossip. Thus the Pepper name was remembered, even though at her death she was recorded as Quinn. I wonder if her death cert would show the names of witnesses?
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Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 27 January 21 00:43 GMT (UK) »
It would seem that Beatrice’s first child “Dorothy Beryl” was reared from a young age by her father Frederick Hartley BROBBLE (1894-1976). He married in 1916. This would explain why Dorothy was not known to your family.
I believe Dorothy died in 1979 with the surname Brobble, so she never married.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)

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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 27 January 21 00:46 GMT (UK) »
Re Thomas M Quinn - There is some elasticity in his age on various documents, giving his date of birth between 1885 and 1889.
It is of course possible that he was not born in SA, or he was illegitimate and born with a different surname.
I wonder if his death record - Adelaide, SA on 30 July 1942 (Reg 653/4073 ) would give any more information about him that is useful.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156529804/thomas-michael-quinn
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)

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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 27 January 21 00:55 GMT (UK) »
John Quinn and Ann McGuire were married 28 May 1862 Adelaide.
Her father- John McGuire; His father – Thomas Quinn.
Their first child was a son named Thomas born on 10 June 1865 Port Adelaide; died 1930
John Quinn died 1913 https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156529736/john-quinn

Wouldn’t it be interesting if the various Quinns were all related - so Beatrice and Thomas were cousins of some type.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)