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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 28 January 21 12:48 GMT (UK) »
I'm inclined to think the Edward is a coincidence as well.

Interesting about that orphan boy, would that mean that they took him in?
That is curious.

I can find a James Francis Quinn on familysearch who has enrolled 8 kids in school, one of those is an Imelda Eileen which are family names and there is a Bartholomew Eddy Quinn as well. So there is an Ed but they all have DOB in the 1900's.

I also just got off the phone with Mum, she knew nothing of Thomas but that makes sense as he died before she was born. She was totally under the idea that the maiden name was Pepper too. So maybe that has something to do with the father of Dorothy or Sylvia.
She confirmed they knew she was buried at West Terrace but had never found the grave.

The only things new she added was Beryl/Beatrice used to get in trouble with her RC church as she used to play tambourine in a Salvation Army group and she knew she lived on Halifax street and Kent Road later in life.

Also found this attached to one of the links previously posted.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/212328644/mary-horsburgh
Mary QUINN HORSBURGH
Died in Surrey Hills, VIC and buried in Dandenong.
Australia: Quinn, Chant, Ferguson, Bennett
France: Buard

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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 28 January 21 15:00 GMT (UK) »


Added: I wonder if the correct name for the father should be GRIFFIN - Alex/Aleck Griffin

I just saw this note and that is possible, I thought I saw another letter in there.
And on that It would make sense for the name to be Aleck which I have found mention of.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/201815227/aleck-griffin
 Aleck Griffin
Birth    unknown
Death    17 Jan 1950
Burial    
North Brighton Cemetery

Name:    Alex Griffin
Birth Date:    8 Feb 1878
Birth Place:    Norton Summit
Registration Place:    Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
Father:    Charles Griffin
Mother:    Selena Goodes
Page Number:    338
Volume Number:    196
Brighton, Holdfast Bay City, South Australia, Australia

He would of been quite young at the time, 14 or 15.
I suppose he could of been a labourer but Mary probably knew better.
Australia: Quinn, Chant, Ferguson, Bennett
France: Buard

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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 28 January 21 18:57 GMT (UK) »
Thomas is where it is frustrating.

I can find an Edward QUIN living in Gibson st, Bowden from 1878 through 1883. Occupation a Mason.
That is potentially close to Beatrice´s Quinn family both in location and time.

It´s almost as if Thomas Michael did not exist until after they divorced where that name started appearing from mid to late 30´s and that seems more for the benefit of the police more than anyone else.
It does seem clear enough that Thomas Michael went by just Thomas prior to the 30´s.

When I search I can find zero Thomas´s born to an Edward between 1878-1888 in Australia, the closest I get is a John Thomas Quinn born to an Edward in NSW.
Australia: Quinn, Chant, Ferguson, Bennett
France: Buard


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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #48 on: Thursday 28 January 21 21:14 GMT (UK) »
I can find an Edward QUIN living in Gibson st, Bowden from 1878 through 1883. Occupation a Mason.
That is potentially close to Beatrice´s Quinn family both in location and time.

This Edward Quinn (the mason) died 1909 in Kalgoorlie. See his will – link below. He might be worth exploring further - as you say he was in the right place at the right time. Even though the will has him as a bachelor, this does not mean he did not have an illegitimate son. The name of his brother Thomas mentioned in the Will, might help finding the family.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:74XS-432M
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)

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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #49 on: Thursday 28 January 21 21:28 GMT (UK) »
There is also an Edward Quinn born about 1870 who appears in prison records for minor mis-demeanors. I think both these records are the same person, 5 years apart with different occupations. Confusingly one record says born in SA, and the other says arrived in colony 1878.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7VVY-486Z
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7KDJ-VCN2
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)

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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #50 on: Thursday 28 January 21 22:50 GMT (UK) »
Thank you.
The Mason I'll keep as a person of interest for now, I'd not seen the further information.

I did see those two prison entries before, the laborer and tobacconist.
I wonder if the colony question is specific to SA and the person could of been Australian born but came to SA in 78. Depends on who is asking the question type of thing.
Australia: Quinn, Chant, Ferguson, Bennett
France: Buard

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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #51 on: Friday 29 January 21 03:08 GMT (UK) »
A case of mistaken identity............
Mrs QUINN with four wayward daughters is another person.


The Biographical Index SA has  the death of Ann nee McGuire in 1876.
QUINN John b: c1827 d: 18.2.1913 bd: WTC res: Pt Adelaide Rel: RC
m: 28.5.1862 Adelaide SA Anne nee McGUIRE b: c1840 d: 29.1.1876
ch: Thos (1865-1930), Mary HORSBURGH, Julia HASTINGS (1867-1895)

[BISA is known to have errors]


Ann's death following the death of the youngest daughter.
QUINN Catherine b. 11 Jan 1876
Father: John QUINN
Mother: Ann MAGUIRE
Birth Place/Residence: Bowden
District Code: Hin / Book: 161 / Page: 294
South Australian Deaths Registrations 1842 to 1915
QUINN Catherine d. 25 Feb 1876
Age: 6w
Relative: John QUINN (F)
Death Place: Bowden
District Code: Hin / Book: 72 / Page: 328

South Australian Deaths Registrations 1842 to 1915
QUINN Annie d. 29 Jan 1876  Age: 35y
Relative: John QUINN (H)
Death Place: Bowden
District Code: Hin / Book: 72 / Page: 19


The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1889 - 1931)Wednesday 26 February 1913
Mr. John Quinn died at Holden street, Hindmarsh, on Tuesday week, at the age of 87 years. He arrived in South Australia on the Nugget in 1858, and for many years lived at Hindmarsh. He was gardener at Government House for eight years, including the period of Sir William Jervois' term of office. He left one son - Mr. Quinn, of North Ridleyton two daughters-Mrs. R. Horsburg (Kilkenny), Mrs. D. Musson (Middleton), and a number of grandchildren.


And the death of their daughter Mary in VIC.
HORSBURGH.—On the 3rd August, at his late residence. Blight Street. Croydon.
Richard (Dick), beloved husband of Mary Horsburgh. and loving father of Nellie and Amy, aged 57 years.
Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985
HORSBURGH Mary aged 78 d. 1950
Parents: Quinn John & Ann MAGUIRE
Death Place: S HILLS
Reg Number: 6164


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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #52 on: Monday 22 March 21 23:58 GMT (UK) »


I can find a James Francis Quinn on familysearch who has enrolled 8 kids in school, one of those is an Imelda Eileen which are family names and there is a Bartholomew Eddy Quinn as well. So there is an Ed but they all have DOB in the 1900's.



This is my grandfather b.20 Jul 1873, d. 26 Jul 1968

Richard