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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 25 January 21 01:06 GMT (UK) »
Re Thomas Michael Quinn in the Police Gazette 1942 and 1940.
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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 25 January 21 01:45 GMT (UK) »
DEATH
QUINN Thomas James (Tom) aged 80   d. 24 Apr 1998

Centennial Park Cemetery Records
Thomas James QUINN late of Torrensville
Interred 28 Apr 1998
Interment Location General AD, Path 12, Grave 831

In the same Location
Quinn, Margaret Phyllis late of North Plympton - Interment Date 7 Aug 2013 
Quinn, Kevin Wayne late of Richmond - Interment Date 27 Jun 1963


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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 25 January 21 02:39 GMT (UK) »
There are a couple of Beatrice Quinns in SA of a similar age.
I think Beatrice Eileen QUINN born 1895 in Hindmarsh is probably NOT the correct one, as she marries in 1920 to JACOBS.
It might be worth looking more at Beatrice Osborne QUINN – born 25 Jan 1893 Adelaide, mother Mary Quinn, no father named,   Reg. 513/446
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)


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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 25 January 21 11:50 GMT (UK) »
Wow!
Firstly thank you for the welcomes and a big thank you for the replies and taking a look. There is already a lot to unpack here.


Can you please list all the information on this birth certificate.  It will have good information about the parents.

What other BDM certificates do you have for the people you are researching?

Where and when did your grandfather Thomas James QUINN, born 1918, marry?

Where and when did he die?

Unfortunately I have zero certificates for anything so I know that is not the most helpful. I can always ask family but suspect I would have to obtain them myself.

However the information added by Essie in post 10 is correct. I haven't been able to find the date, it does seem to be locked away on genealogysa though. After 1943 it would seem as Margaret was still a Chant but likely before 1948.

From Genealogy SA
https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-database-search

Sth Aust Births
QUINN   Eileen Monica   F     Thomas QUINN   Norwood   960/259   1915
QUINN   Thomas James   M     Thomas QUINN   Norwood   14A/285   1918



Sth Aust Marriages
QUINN   Thomas        Beatrice   Adelaide   262/597   1915
 
     This marriage certificate should give you more information.

 That is probably more accurate as I have Eileen's DOB as 1916.
Agreed if I can find the cert it would be helpful. Definitely going to register at genealogysa as it looks like there is plenty of info there. Maybe.

Welcome to Rootschat.

My resources have four QUINN children with the same mother named Beatrice Cecilia QUINN and only two recorded with the father's name.

Dorothy Beryl b. 31 May 1911 Adelaide
Father: [unrecorded]

Sylvia Imelda b. 20 Mar 1913 Adelaide
Father: [unrecorded]

Eileen Monica QUINN b. 4 Jun 1915 Rose Park
Father: Thomas QUINN

Thomas James QUINN b. 1 Mar 1918 Rose Park
Father: Thomas QUINN


South Australian Marriages
Groom: QUINN Thomas age 26, Father Edward.
Bride: QUINN Beatrice age 22, Father not recorded
Date: 9 Mar 1915
Place: St Patricks Church Adelaide
District: Ade / Book/Page: 262/597


Essie

Thank you for the welcome.

OK so Dorothy Beryl is new to me, possibly she didn't make it but gives a link as to why my family only ever knew Beatrice as Beryl.
And a again I had Sylvia down as 1914 plus the Imelda is new info too.

Also the marriage info adds their ages and church to what I had so that corresponds to a few things as well.

Thanks
Australia: Quinn, Chant, Ferguson, Bennett
France: Buard

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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 25 January 21 12:37 GMT (UK) »
From “Hospital, Asylum and Lying-in-homes”
https://www.genealogysa.org.au/index.php?
You need to register to see the details – I don’t know what info it will contain.
I imagine the entries are for the birth of daughters Dorothy and Sylvia

Surname   Given Names   Age   Admission Year
QUINN   Beatrice Cecilia   18   1911
QUINN   Beatrice Cecilia   19   1912
Australia: Quinn, Chant, Ferguson, Bennett
France: Buard

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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 25 January 21 12:39 GMT (UK) »
Apologies for the double post, good thing I copied the text first.

From “Hospital, Asylum and Lying-in-homes”
https://www.genealogysa.org.au/index.php?
You need to register to see the details – I don’t know what info it will contain.
I imagine the entries are for the birth of daughters Dorothy and Sylvia

Surname   Given Names   Age   Admission Year
QUINN   Beatrice Cecilia   18   1911
QUINN   Beatrice Cecilia   19   1912

Beatrice Cecilia QUINN death date 6 March 1969
Burial here:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156529670/beatrice-cecilia-quinn


Yes I have seen that, what I find interesting is using the surname Quinn before marriage. I guess it was normal to use the name of the father when being admitted?

I believe that DOD and grave to be the right one.

Beatrice Cecilia Quinn, of Port Lincoln, against Thomas Quinn of Rundle street, City, on the ground of desertion.

1934 'Undefended Divorce Actions', The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1931 - 1954), 19 December, p. 18. , viewed 25 Jan 2021, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article35026700

ADD: Maintenance case
1928 'IN THE COURTS.', The Register (Adelaide, SA : 1901 - 1929), 11 August, p. 12. , viewed 25 Jan 2021, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article57053823

This is very interesting thank you!
The 'of Port Lincoln' is a new lead, would it of been the place where she was at the time or where she was from. I'll have to look into that. I have her on the electoral rolls in Thebarton but that is later on.

It gives Thomas's address at the time as Vaughan place. Man the name street/place brings back memories. I wonder if he was living in one of the establishments of the location. ;D

I knew Thomas James was in a boys home so this suggests that maybe all the kids were or maybe just Eileen as well.
Australia: Quinn, Chant, Ferguson, Bennett
France: Buard

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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 25 January 21 12:54 GMT (UK) »
Burials at West Terrace Cemetery
Thomas Michael QUINN aged 56 buried 2 Aug 1942   Catholic Western Ground, Row V, Site Number 143
Beatrice Cecilia QUINN aged 77 buried 10 Mar 1969   Catholic Western Ground, Row V, Site Number 143


South Australian Deaths, Registrations 1916 to 1972

QUINN Thomas Michael
Date: 30 Jul 1942
Age: 56y
Status: Div.
Relative:
Death Place: Adelaide
District Code: Ade / Book: 653 / Page: 4073

QUINN Beatrice Cecilia
Date: 6 Mar 1969
Age: 77y
Status: Widow
Relative: Thomas QUINN [DH]
Death Place: North Adelaide


Essie

Thank you, this definitely suggests it's Thomas Michael. That is something I have not come across before. That is bound to help.

Welcome to Rootschat.

There was an inquest into the death of Thomas Michael Quinn, 6th column:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article128363263

Death notice, 2nd page, 3rd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article92380881

He died due to a burst duodenal ulcer, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article96318638

Jamjar

Cheers for the welcome.
This is fascinating, as far as I know the Thomas Joseph mentioned was an even dodgier character than my Great Grandfather. Thankfully the mentioned age difference caused me to rule him out earlier on.

It mentions the East End Market Hotel, hah. See post above.

This paints quite a picture.
Australia: Quinn, Chant, Ferguson, Bennett
France: Buard

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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 25 January 21 13:16 GMT (UK) »
Re Thomas Michael Quinn in the Police Gazette 1942 and 1940.

Thank you!

That second one and the mentions of scars correlates to the Thomas Quinn arrested in 1917 in Broken Hill.

There are a couple of Beatrice Quinns in SA of a similar age.
I think Beatrice Eileen QUINN born 1895 in Hindmarsh is probably NOT the correct one, as she marries in 1920 to JACOBS.
It might be worth looking more at Beatrice Osborne QUINN – born 25 Jan 1893 Adelaide, mother Mary Quinn, no father named,   Reg. 513/446

The Beatrice Cecile one seems correct, as far as we know she was a Pepper before becoming a Quinn. But searching that hasn't so far produced anything substantial.
I agree the Eileen one would be too young.
Australia: Quinn, Chant, Ferguson, Bennett
France: Buard

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Re: Thomas QUINN, South Australia?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 25 January 21 22:31 GMT (UK) »
The marriage certificate will help with her surname, but the certificates from South Australia are light on other information.
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Date
Couple's names
Couple's ages
Couple's birthplaces
Previous status
Couple's occupations
Couple's residences

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