Hit a brick wall already!

[jimnix]

I have been helping out a friend with their family tree and seem to be stuck in a rut already. So far we have traced his ancestors to Elland in the 1901 census...

(Class: RG13; Piece: 4127; Folio: 102; Page: 43)

Caravans fairground, Elland, Yorkshire

Henry Crampton, Head, 34, Steam Roundabout Manager, born Leeds

Helen Crampton, Wife, 26, born Sheffield

John H Crampton, Son, 8m, born Clayton West



“John H Crampton” was actually John William Crampton. His birth was registered in 1900 in Wortley R.D. His father “Henry” was actually John Henry Crampton. We have no more information about his mother Helen at all because, by 1911, John Jr was living with his father’s sister Ellen Cookshaw.

What we are struggling with is finding a marriage for John Henry or Henry Crampton and Helen. I would love it if anyone could give us a nudge in the right direction please 

[JenB]

John H Crampton” was actually John William Crampton. His birth was registered in 1900 in Wortley R.D. His father “Henry” was actually John Henry Crampton. We have no more information about his mother Helen at all

According to the GRO index his mother's maiden surname was Hannan.

[tazzie]

Marriage on freebmd

 Ellen Hannon to John Henry Crampton in Pontefract  reg district in 1895.

 Tazzie

[jimnix]

Thank you both. Looks like there was at least another child born in 1897...

MARGARET EMMA CRAMPTON, 1897, Hunslet R.D, mother’s maiden name Hannon

I’m a little confused because I’ve just found a possible baptism for Margaret at Sheffield but her mother’s name is Bridget Hannon rather than Ellen/Helen.

St Vincent of Paul, Sheffield
22 June 1897, Margareta Crampton filia Johannis Henrici Crampton et Brigitta Crampton olim Hannon.

Might be a different family however.

[JenB]

Take a look at this John H Crampton and family in 1911   
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWVD-82Y

[jimnix]

Take a look at this John H Crampton and family in 1911   
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWVD-82Y

Well that explains why John Jr was living with his aunt in 1911. I have found “Mrs Andrews” in 1901 with Florence who seems to have been John Srs second wife. No second marriage yet or a death for Ellen.

(https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9PW-V45)

[Millmoor]

I would suggest you search for John Henry Crampton in the newspaper archive for the year 1903. There are a lot of articles about him . He was charged with the wilful murder of a man called John Conley, with whom his wife was living, they having separated after frequent quarrels. The charge was reduced to manslaughter and he was given 18 months hard labour.

William

[jimnix]

Thanks Millmoor. I’ve had a look and it makes an interesting read. Some articles also mention Ellen. It looks like Ellen returned to Sheffield and gave her child John Jr to his grandparents.

[jimnix]

Looks like Ellen actually reverted to her maiden name!

She appears in the West Yorkshire Prison records on Anc** on 28 July 1903 and 17 September 1903 as Ellen Hannon, 24, born Sheffield City, for being drunk and disorderly and stealing a pair of boots.