John Warren from Macroom, married circa 1875

[Smedrockd]

I'd be grateful for any information or suggestions as to the family (particularly parents or siblings) of John Warren who appears to have been born in the Macroom area in 1838, and married Margaret Murphy in about 1875.  They seem to have had five children born in the same area (Michael J, Hannah/Johannah, Mary, Annie, and Katie/Catherine) and then emigrated to New York and had a two further children Maggie and John.  I have a genetic connection to their descendants in the USA but would like to find any family that stayed in Ireland. Many thanks

[Kiltaglassan]

They seem to have had five children born in the same area (Michael J, Hannah/Johannah, Mary, Annie, and Katie/Catherine).........

Links to the five children.
Apart from the eldest and the youngest, the others born outside Macroom.

Michael 4th December 1875
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03075/2127195.pdf
In Macroom

Hannah 28th July 1877
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/02993/2096875.pdf
Rooves ?

Mary 27th December 1879
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/cert_amends/cert_1880/2055084a.pdf
Rooves Beg townland
https://www.townlands.ie/cork/east-muskerry/aglish/cannaway/rooves-beg/

Anne 13th June 1881
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1881/02821/2035001.pdf
Ardrum townland
https://www.townlands.ie/cork/east-muskerry/inishcarra/carrigrohane-beg/ardrum/

Catherine 13th December 1882
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02755/2012076.pdf
In Macroom


KG

[Kiltaglassan]

...John Warren who appears to have been born in the Macroom area in 1838, and married Margaret Murphy in about 1875.

Here's the marriage in 1875.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1875/11200/8104434.pdf

John living in the townland of Coolcour.
https://www.townlands.ie/cork/west-muskerry/macroom/macloneigh/coolcour/


KG

[LH]

Hi

John Warren is recorded as age 22, at the time of his marriage in January 1875.  Wouldn’t this mean he was born c. 1853 and not 1838.

Regards

[Smedrockd]

Yes, you're right,  this is something I only noticed after reading the link to the marriage record yesterday.  The marriage record I had previously didn't have these the ages recorded.  The earlier birth date I have now looks unreliable (the marriage record is more convincing to me) and I need to rethink.  However I think it unlocks some possibilities for me thank you

[LH]

Hi

Do you know whether your John had siblings?

There were two Warren females, both stated to be daughters of 'Michael Warren, Labourer', married in different churches in Macroom area, around that time.

2 Mar 1878 - Hannah Warren (m) Timothy Riordan.  One witness was Margaret Warren.
See:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1878/11097/8061505.pdf

8 Feb 1890 - Annie Warren, age 27 (m) Cornelius Lucey.   On this one Michael Warren is 'Dead'. 
See:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1890/10696/5898758.pdf

There may be more.   It might be worth checking 1901 and 1911 census for them and their children, if they had any.  You can also check for births of children on www.irishgenealogy.ie.

Regards

[Smedrockd]

Thanks, great, no I wasn't aware of them ... and siblings are exactly this kind of leads I need. 

This looks like it might be another one ... Margaret Warren (again daughter of Michael, a labourer):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/10996/8020512.pdf

Although this marriage takes place in Ballincollig, Margaret's marriage to William Aherne looks like it produces a son, Denis the following year, but born much closer to Macroom in the parish of Kilmurry.

Unfortunately, I can't read the name of the building where Margaret & William's marriage took place or the location of their residence at the time.  I wondered if anyone could help?  Many thanks

[Kiltaglassan]

Unfortunately, I can't read the name of the building where Margaret & William's marriage took place or the location of their residence at the time.  I wondered if anyone could help?  Many thanks

The marriage is in the Clergyman's house (of Ovens? RC Church).

They're both living in the townland of Currahaly.
https://www.townlands.ie/cork/east-muskerry/aglish/aglish/currahaly/


KG

[Smedrockd]

Thanks very much that's very helpful