Author Topic: Looking for a Thomas Riddel(l) and his brother Alexander Riddel(l) in Australia  (Read 315 times)

Offline lmfamilyresearch

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Hi,

I have never searched for someone in Australia before so I don't even know where to start.

Firstly, apologies as I have very little information on the two people I'd like to see if I can get more information.  What I have is the following.

I am looking for a Thomas Riddel(l) born about 1828 in England and his brother Alexander Riddel(l) born about 1830 in England.  All I have to go on is a mention in a book that they went from London, England to Australia.  The book also indicates that Thomas went during the gold fever.

Their parents were John Riddel(l) (born about 1785) and Margaret Cochrane (b. 1786), who moved around from Portsea, Hampshire to Peterhead, Aberdeenshire, back to Portsea, and London and Chatham.

I have no idea if Thomas and Alexander married, had a family, stayed in Australia or anything.

Would anyone be able to give me some help or at least give me suggestions on how to go about seeing if I can find them in Australia?

Thanks,
Bennett, Bowling, Braedine/Brodie, Bulmer, Burns, Cochrane, Devlin, Ellis, Garth, Henderson, Holm/Holmes, Kershaw, Masson, McClernon/McLaren/MacLaren, McComb, McKee, Pitt, Rawood, Riddel, Robinson, Whitaker, Wood

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Re: Looking for a Thomas Riddel(l) and his brother Alexander Riddel(l) in Australia
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 31 January 21 02:12 GMT (UK) »
Here is a Victorian death notice that might be worth considering in 1907

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/196159101

"Alexander RIDDEL ....husband of the late Jane......father of M J....colonist of 54 years..."

This would place his arrival in the Victorian Gold rush.

Here is the death registration. The father's name is not as you have stated.

Alest (sic) RIDDELL
Birth Year   abt 1830
Age   77
At Fitzroy, Victoria
Father Riddell Wm
Mother Margt
Registration Year   1907
Registration Number   1310

You can search and read his will here.
https://prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/wills-and-probates
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Looking for a Thomas Riddel(l) and his brother Alexander Riddel(l) in Australia
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 31 January 21 02:21 GMT (UK) »
This could be the birth of the daughter Margaret.
 
Margaret Anne RIDDLE
Born 1853.
 Father Alexander RIDDLE.
Mother Jane MIHEL (sic)
Reg 720
Melbourne

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Re: Looking for a Thomas Riddel(l) and his brother Alexander Riddel(l) in Australia
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 31 January 21 02:26 GMT (UK) »
There is this English marriage-

March quarter 1851.

MICHELL  Jane     
RIDDELL  Alexander
Lambeth  4/ 255   

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Re: Looking for a Thomas Riddel(l) and his brother Alexander Riddel(l) in Australia
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 31 January 21 02:35 GMT (UK) »
On the original marriage certificate for this couple, which I have seen on Ancestry, the father of Alexander is shown as John RIDDELL.

Alexander is a tailor. A bachelor. His father is I think, a messenger.
Sue

ADDING. FYI.
The surname of Jane is written a few times on the document and is clearly MIHELL
Her father Thomas is a tailor
Witnesses look to be William and Sarah BONE.
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Re: Looking for a Thomas Riddel(l) and his brother Alexander Riddel(l) in Australia
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 31 January 21 03:02 GMT (UK) »
Arrival of Alexander & Jane RIDDLE , Melbourne, on “Elizabeth”. 18 July 1853.
Departed Southampton

Both 23
Alexander is a Tailor and they are from Surrey
Side tracked to a friend’s very interesting Norfolk families. MORGAN, PRATT, HORNOR, SUCKLING

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Re: Looking for a Thomas Riddel(l) and his brother Alexander Riddel(l) in Australia
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 31 January 21 03:32 GMT (UK) »
Boroondara General Cemetery
RIDDELL Alexander 23-Mar-1907 77 C/E C 2805

Buried alone.

Death:

2267/1902 RIDDELL Jane father MIHILL Thos at Lgatha aged 74
Leongatha Cemetery - ANG E 030
RIDDLE Jane 69 22-March-1902
Note: There is a photo of the headstone: https://www.leongathacemetery.com.au/search

Marriage, as per name in Alexander’s death notice:

5318/1883 ROBERTS William James to RIDDEL Margaret Jane

Alexander’s probate states the Margaret is a widow. Likely death of husband William James, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article8725705

Boroondara General Cemetery - C/E A 0743
ROBERTS William James 14-Dec-1894   47
ROBERTS Ann Amelia 24-Jun-1901 75
ROBERTS Robert James 08-Jan-1909 91

Death:

7068/1935 ROBERTS Margaret parents JANE and ALEXANDER RIDDLE at CHELTENHAM aged 81


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Re: Looking for a Thomas Riddel(l) and his brother Alexander Riddel(l) in Australia
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 31 January 21 04:50 GMT (UK) »
Boroondara General Cemetery
RIDDELL Alexander 23-Mar-1907 77 C/E C 2805
Buried alone.
Alexander Riddell – link to cemetery
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/208246978/alexander-riddell
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Re: Looking for a Thomas Riddel(l) and his brother Alexander Riddel(l) in Australia
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 31 January 21 05:00 GMT (UK) »
This could be the birth of the daughter Margaret.
 
Margaret Anne RIDDLE
Born 1853.
 Father Alexander RIDDLE.
Mother Jane MIHEL (sic)
Reg 720
Melbourne

Sue

720/1853 RIDDLE Margaret Jane parents MIHELL Jane and Alexander at MELB

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