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Re: Mary Irene Williams b abt 1865 Glamorgan
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 09 February 21 11:36 GMT (UK) »
there's the possible birth reg I gave you in reply 6 to confirm parents & address.
There are no Mary Irene Williams registrations or baptisms as early as 1860s. There's a Mary I registered Cardiff but GRO index shows middle name to be Ida.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Mary Irene Williams b abt 1865 Glamorgan
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 09 February 21 13:56 GMT (UK) »
possible marriage 28 May 1855 parish church of Merthyr Tydfil
Isaac Williams 27 bach engineman Abercanaid father David Williams miner
Ann Harris 23 spinster servant Abercanaid father William Harris carpenter
witnesses John Edwards & Thomas Phillips, all signed apart from Ann.

Possible birth reg Mary Williams june qtr 1865 Merthyr Tydfil vol 11a pg 420 mmn Harris
Hi Osprey
I did notice the above birth reg but when I looked it up on FreeBMD, I could find no reference to mmn Harris. Perhaps you have access to more information than me?
I checked out the Mary I Williams birth with the Cardiff Registry Office and they confirmed it was not the right person
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Re: Mary Irene Williams b abt 1865 Glamorgan
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 09 February 21 14:26 GMT (UK) »

I did notice the above birth reg but when I looked it up on FreeBMD, I could find no reference to mmn Harris.

Perhaps you have access to more information than me?


mother's maiden name can be found using the GRO indexes - you have to register but it's free to search https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
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Re: Mary Irene Williams b abt 1865 Glamorgan
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 09 February 21 15:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ladyhawk
The GRO Indexes are not a source I have used much in the past but thanks for reminding me.
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Re: Mary Irene Williams b abt 1865 Glamorgan
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 09 February 21 16:17 GMT (UK) »
it also may show middle names when there's only an initial on FreeBmd.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Mary Irene Williams b abt 1865 Glamorgan
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 10 February 21 11:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I have been trying to find a death record for Ann Harris but so far without success.
She is not with her husband Isaac in Cefnpennar, Aberdare in the 1871 Census and her last child, William Thomas was born in 1869 so that should narrow it down considerably.
I must admit to be struggling with Welsh place names. Can you help me with this?
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Re: Mary Irene Williams b abt 1865 Glamorgan
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 10 February 21 12:02 GMT (UK) »
possible
Ann Williams 37 june qtr 1869 Merthyr Tydfil vol 11a pg 262
Haven't spotted a parish burial as yet.

William Thomas Williams was baptised 18 June 1869 in Aberdare son of Isaac & Ann of Cwmbach, birth was registered june qtr 1868 Merthyr Tydfil vol 11a pg 434 mmn Harris
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Mary Irene Williams b abt 1865 Glamorgan
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 10 February 21 14:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Osprey
Isaac is buried in Aberdare Cemetery so his wife Ann is probably buried with him
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Re: Mary Irene Williams b abt 1865 Glamorgan
« Reply #35 on: Monday 15 February 21 14:59 GMT (UK) »
baptisms for children of Isaac & Ann Williams in Aberdare
4 April 1862
David age 6
Sarah Ann 4
Ellen 2
Isaac engineer address Cwmbach
3 Aug 1862 Catherine 9 months
18 June 1869 William Thomas Isaac engine driver

Nothing for Mary as yet.

Possible death notice for Isaac?
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3519021/3519023/7/

Died 25 Sept 1886 in Ystradyfodwg but home address 7 Lucy Row Cwmbach, admin to son David Isaac Williams. Death reg age 58 sept qtr 1886 Pontypridd vol  11a pg 282
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Can you tell me where the above death information for Isaac Williams was obtained in particular the address of 7 Lucy Row, Cwmbach?. The above newspaper notice and the Death Reg do not refer to this address.
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