Thomas & Harriet Simmons (nee Pilbeam)

[speedy]

Hi, I'm looking for information on the Thomas and Harriet Simmons family.  Thomas was born Ashburnham in 1817 and Harriet, daughter of George Pilbeam was born Burwash 1820.  In 1851 they apparently lived at Borzell farm, Ticehurst.  I would like information on both and ancestors and descendants of Thomas.  If anyone can help I will be grateful.
Thank you
Speedy

['Tricia]

Welcome to Rootschat

1861 census

 Address looks like Luttenden,Ashburton,

Thomas Simmons1816  Penhurst, Sussex,  Head Farmer of 100 acres employing one boy
Harriett Simmons 1821  Burwash, Sussex,Wife   
Thomas Simmons age 16 born  Lutifield(?) Catisfield(?) Sussex Carter, Agric Lab
 Ellen Simmons 1858  Ashburnham, Sussex,Daughter
 Emily Simmons  1847  Battle, Sussex,Daughter Nursemaid
 Fanny Simmons 1852 Ticehurst Dau
 Hannah Simmons 1854  Etchingham, Sussex,Daughter
 Harriett Simmons 1851  Ticehurst, Sussex,  Daughter 
 Joseph Simmons 1856 Ticehurst Son   
 Richard Simmons1859  Ashburnham, Sussex,Son
 Ruth Martha Simmons  1860  Ashburnham, Sussex, Daughter 

 
 RG9/565 Battle Folio 134 Page 11

Though Thomas has birthplace of Penhurst this is the same family as on 1871 with Thomas giving birthplace of Ashburton
 

['Tricia]

Possible brother of Harriet. Dates and places match

Address looks like Homecrouch, Goudhurst Kent

 Henry Pilbeam 1815  Burwash, Sussex, Head, Master Blacksmith
Hannah Pilbeam  1812  Goudhurst, Kent,  Wife 
Frank Pilbeam 1854  Goudhurst, Kent,  Son 
George Pilbeam1850  Ticehurst, Sussex,  Son 
Harry Pilbeam 1840  Wadhurst, Sussex,  Son, Smith     
 John Pilbeam 1856  Goudhurst, Kent,Son
 Thos Pilbeam  1852  Ticehurst, Sussex,Son 
 Wm Pilbeam  1842  Lamberhurst, Kent,  Son 

 
RG9/508 Cranbrook Folio 8 Page 9

['Tricia]

1871 census very difficult image to read - change of address and occupation?

Canal - then name of a cottage or Pub which I can't read, Milton Kent

Thomas Simmons 1817  Ashburnham, Sussex,Head Publican
Harriet Simmons 1822  Burwash, Sussex,  Wife   
Hannah Simmons 1854  Etchingham, Sussex,  Daughter 
Ellen Simmons 1858  Ashburnham, Sussex,  Daughter 
Richard Simmons  1859  Ashburnham, Sussex,Son   
 Martha Simmons  1860  Ashburnham, Sussex,  Daughter 
?Amy ?Simmons 1862  Ashburnham, Sussex,  Daughter   

 
  RG10/891 Gravesend Folio 116 Page 42


Tricia
  

['Tricia]

Do you have this?

In 1881 Thomas and Harriet are lodgers with the 'Card' family

Church Fields, West Malling Kent

George Card  1839  Wt Malling, Kent,  Head Farm Labourer
Susan 1839  Egerton, Kent,Wife
 Ellen Card 1879 West Malling Kent
Alice Card1877  Wt Malling, Kent, 
Thomas Card 1867  Wt Malling, Kent, Son Groom
William Card  1865  Ditton, Kent, England Son
Harriet Simmons 1821  Burwash, Sussex,Lodger
 Thomas Simmons 1818  Ashburnham, Sussex,Lodger Labourer

RG11/0901 Malling Folio 23 Page 39

['Tricia]

In 1881 there is an Amy K Simmons lodging with a 1 month old baby!!!

  Offham Road West Malling Kent

Frederick Misson abt 1850  Maidstone, Kent,Head  Waterman
Frances H. Misson abt 1849  Maidstone, Kent,Wife 
 Christina Misson1876  Wt Malling, Kent,Daughter
 Frances C. Misson abt 1880  Wt Malling, Kent,  Daughter 
 Henry F. Misson abt 1879  Wt Malling, Kent, Son
 William H. Misson abt 1875  Wt Malling, Kent,  Son
 Amy K. Simmons abt 1862  Ashburham, Sussex,Lodger Domestic Servant
 Ernest H. Simmons  1881  West Malling, Kent,Lodger   

RG11/0901  Malling Folio 22 Page 37

Tricia
 

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi there

1851 Census

HO107/ 1639/ Folio 95/ Page 84 - Borzell Farm House, Ticehurst

SIMMONDS Thomas, Head, Marr, 34, Farmer employs 4, born Ashburnham
.................  Harriott, Wife, Marr, 29, born Burwash
.................  Thomas, Son, Unm, 6, born Catsfield
.................  Eliza, Dau, Unm, 4, born Battle
.................  Harriott, Dau, Unm, 8m, born Tcehurst

SIMMONDS James, Head, 32, Farmer employs 4, born Ashburnham
.................  Eliza, Wife, Marr, 25, born Battle
.................  Eliza M L P, Dau, Unm, 6, born Battle
.................  James, Son, Unm, 1, born Ticehurst
.................  Emily, Neice, Unm, 21, born Hurstmonceux

Hope that helps

Chris in 1066

[speedy]

Thank you for all your help it is quite likely that the family moved to Milton Gravesend.  They had a son also a Thomas (abt 1844) who was manager of the coal company, he live at 1 Coal Store Cottage.  However I dont recall them all living at the same address on the 1971 census.  I do recall an Amy with a young baby but I didn't really have any details.  
Thanks again

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi again

1841 Census

HO107/ 1108/ 10 - Hailsleden, Dallington, Near Battle

SIMMONDS Thomas, 25, Farmer
................   James, 22
................   Sylvestor, 15
................   Frances, 15

All born in county of Sussex

Looks like they were at home and unmarried in 1841 - the two 15 year olds are both females.

Chris in 1066