John Weaver born 1830 Montgomeryshire

[mazi]

Mazi, are you sure his occupation is fireman or do I need to go to Specsavers?

John

Familysearch must tell lies
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V514-X6J


Mike

[CaroleW]

Aah - FS have his birthyear as 1831 but Ancestry as 1841.  1871 image shows him as 40

His occ is difficult to read.  First word does look like fireman but can’t make out second word.  Third word is Jack

If it is him - the 1874 marriage cert should show him as a widower

[osprey]

the one in West Bromwich is a carpenter. On his 1854 marriage, his father is William Weaver, joiner.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLQC-3QF2

So possibly the one baptised 21 Feb 1831 son of William the labourer.

[mazi]

There is a possible John weaver in 1871 in penarth, he is a fireman.   railway? Promotion to driver often involved a move.

Mike

Alas Penarth did not get a railway until  later than 1871, but close to cardiff which did have railways

Mike

[RayMilBax]

I seem to recall that the Cardiff John Weaver in 1871 his wife from memory I couldn’t find a death between 1871-1874 so I’d ruled him out 

[osprey]

As he's not the son of William the joiner, here's the family of William the labourer in 1841
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M77H-1LM

other children baptised to the couple in Montgomery
4 April 1817 Edward, William noted as waggoner
30 May 1819 Jane

1851 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGDS-PV1

William the joiner has remarried by 1851 to a Catherine, & there's a monumental inscription which must then be for William the labourer. William died 15 August 1854 aged 77 and wife Ann died 8 Nov 1867 aged 79.

1861 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7NM-XGQ
baptism of Henry
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X15F-196

[Mabel Bagshawe]

This him?
Liverpool, England, Crew Lists 1861-1919

John Weaver
Age:    38
Birth Place:    Montgomery
Event Date:    11 Feb 1868
Ship Name:    Agnes Jack

Engaged as a fireman. Joined the ship in Cardiff

Added: there's a couple of records from that year involving that ship and Liverpool

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Possible on 1841? In Montgomery. All born in county
    
William Weaver    55 - ag lab
Ann Weaver    45
Emma Weaver    17
Ann Weaver    14
Harriot Weaver    12
John Weaver    9
Richard Weaver    8
Margaret Weaver    6
Catharine Weaver    4


HO107;  1439;  9; 9;

[Mabel Bagshawe]

There's a baptism for a John, son of William (labourer) and Ann, of the same address as 1841 census, on 21 Feb 1831