South Lodge Kirknewton

[Forfarian]

I don't see any attached picture?

[MonicaL]

Hi Clare

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Monica

[MonicaL]

....Her birth certificate was registered in Edinburgh DOB 1 June 1929. According to her birth certificate mother was Agnes Anderson “daughter of oresman”. Domicile: South Lodge Kirknewton.
No father information.

I think it likely that Agnes was relatively young at the time of Margaret's birth. I only see normally the description "daughter of a xxx", when the mother was young. It would normally simply show the mother's name and occupation if applicable.

What did Margaret tell her children about her early years? You won't find information on possible adoption (is that what happened?) as adoptions were unofficial until 1930. Before this, adoptions were privately arranged and no records remain for them. See www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=130922.0

Monica

[MonicaL]

I am curious about names 

You mention that Margaret's middle names were DOUGLAS and WICK. There are two birth entries showing in Kirknewton in 1929:

William Wick Anderson 690/ 27
Kenneth Wick Anderson 690/ 28

Margaret's registration on the Kirknewton register in 1929 has the reference of 690/ 35.

Wondering about the Wick surname for these two boys.

Forfarian, you are whizz with all things SP. The consecutive numbers, does this imply twins potentially?

Monica

[Clareuhi]

Whoops, sorry about that image not loading. Hopefully it is attached now.
Monica, thank you so much for your insight. I have also been very interested at where the Douglas and Wick names came from. Unfortunately I don't have much information on her childhood, the story was that she was an orphan, and that is what my father and uncles were told. Both of my paternal grandparents had unknown fathers (and in this case not much information on a mother either) so any help would be really appreciated as I start this ancestry journey after losing my dad unexpectedly. Thanks

[dowdstree]

I think it says daughter of a Byreman which would make his occupation farming.

You can see modern images of South Lodge, Kirknewton if you "google" it and look at the properties for sale. It was last sold in 2019 and looks like it has been extended.

Dorrie

[Forfarian]

William Wick Anderson 690/ 27
Kenneth Wick Anderson 690/ 28
The consecutive numbers, does this imply twins potentially?

Yes.

Unlike in England, where several births are on the same page and therefore all have the same page number, Scottish ones all have a unique number.

Kenneth Wick Anderson, aged 0, died in Kirknewton in 1929. So although you can't get the birth certs online, you can find out from the death cert who his parents were. I took a look and he died at  Whitecross Cottages, Kirknewton, and his mother was Elizabeth Anderson, dairymaid. However the RCE says he died at South Lodge. So it looks pretty certain that Elizabeth and Agnes were sisters.

(I think Whitecross may be an error for Whitemoss. See https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18&lat=55.87915&lon=-3.41324&layers=168&b=1)

So why would two sisters bestow the same unusual middle name on three illegitimate children?

BTW I agree with byreman. So James was a cattleman who got a tied house with his job.

[MonicaL]

Elizabeth, mother of the two boys Kenneth and William, is showing as a dairymaid on the death reg of Kenneth. Would fit with the byreman ref (where a byre is a cowshed!).

Monica

[ev]

Just to note , there is a William Wick on the VR's for Kirknewton 1925/30.


ev