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Edward BEECH b.25 Nov 1866 (possibly Great Bookham, Surrey)
« on: Thursday 11 February 21 17:38 GMT (UK) »
I’m researching the ancestors of Frank N A Greenway’s wife, Adelaide E Beech, but I’m struggling to fully identify Adelaide’s mother, also called Adelaide and find her in a family on a census record. I would also like to find out who Edward Beech’s parents are, as I can’t find a birth record, only a death record.  Frank and Adelaide’s marriage - April 1931 Epsom, Surrey, 2a 71.

•   Frank and Adelaide in 1939 are living in Harrop’s Row, Tarporley, Northwich R.D. Cheshire (although Frank’s wife’s record is closed). This gives Frank’s birth date as 8 Jun 1902.

•   I can find who I believe to be Adelaide’s parents - Edward Beech (born 25 Nov 1866) and wife Adelaide Beech (born 14 Oct 1869) - on the 1939 census with two children Mary A Beech b. 19 Jan 1902 and Thomas E Beech b. 6 Aug 1911, plus someone else but the record is closed (this is possibly Adelaide). They are all living at Craigie, Leatherhead Road, Great Bookham, Surrey.

•   I can’t find an actual birth record for Adelaide, but I have found a death record for ADELAIDE BEECH in April 1981, which gives her birth as 14 Jan 1907.

•   Adelaide’s sister, Mary A Beech’s birth is registered at West Ham, Essex – Vol 4a Page 471.

•   There are several “Beech’s” birth records for West Ham, but I can’t connect these to my family.

•   Edward BEECH died Craigie, Leatherhead Road on 10 Nov 1941, age 75 – which puts his birth date as 1866. This is the same Edward Beech as in the above 1939 census.

•   I can’t find Edward, (wife) Adelaide and family on the 1911 census anywhere.

Can anyone please help me find this family and identify who Adelaide Beech’s parents are?  Many for reading this.

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Re: Edward BEECH b.25 Nov 1866 (possibly Great Bookham, Surrey)
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 11 February 21 17:50 GMT (UK) »
I presume that as you have only quoted the reference number you don't have Adelaides marriage certificate.

I see you have a death in the name of Beech, have you any reason to believe that her death would be registered in her maiden name and not her married name  :-\

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Re: Edward BEECH b.25 Nov 1866 (possibly Great Bookham, Surrey)
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 11 February 21 17:58 GMT (UK) »
Also I can't see Adelaide Greenaway nee Beech being redacted on the 1939, given she wed in 1931, it would be assumed that she was born over 100 years ago.


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Re: Edward BEECH b.25 Nov 1866 (possibly Great Bookham, Surrey)
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 11 February 21 18:01 GMT (UK) »

•   I can’t find an actual birth record for Adelaide, but I have found a death record for ADELAIDE BEECH in April 1981, which gives her birth as 14 Jan 1907.


I presume you mean this death record, not Beech as you have quoted
Adelaide Elizabeth Greenway
Birth 14 January 1907
June qtr 1881
District   Vale Royal
County   Cheshire
Volume   35
Page   0826
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Re: Edward BEECH b.25 Nov 1866 (possibly Great Bookham, Surrey)
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 11 February 21 18:13 GMT (UK) »
Adelaides father is Edward Beech occupation Butler, her abode was Gt Bookham as per Marriage certificate
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Re: Edward BEECH b.25 Nov 1866 (possibly Great Bookham, Surrey)
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 11 February 21 18:58 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your comments. I think I let the two Adelaides confuse me. Of course Adelaide who married Frank Greenway, would have a death record for Adelaide Greenway! 🤭

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Re: Edward BEECH b.25 Nov 1866 (possibly Great Bookham, Surrey)
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 11 February 21 19:41 GMT (UK) »
I'm intrigued that I can;t find an obvious marriage for Edward and Adelaide, or a birth for Adelaide or Thomas Edward.

I''m not sure about the birth registration you found in West Ham for Mary - that child's middle name is Adelaide. I know it does happen, but using the same name twice is a bit odd )when the first is still living)

Is it likely this family were based overseas?  No - Scotland!

Adelaide Elizabeth - 1907   674/ 8  Borthwick
Thomas Edward - 1911,   665/1 34  Dalmeny


Marriage
BEECH  EDWARD
WILLIAMS  ADELAIDE
   
1901   685/4 355 St Giles

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Re: Edward BEECH b.25 Nov 1866 (possibly Great Bookham, Surrey)
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 11 February 21 19:46 GMT (UK) »
1919 - Edward and Adelaide are on the electoral register at Bellfield House Cargil Terrace. Edinburgh

There's an Edward Beech registered at another address in Edinburgh in 1915, occupation butler

Can't see anyone in 1911, but there's an Edward Beech, footman, b England c1868 at 29 Moray Pl Edinburgh in 1901

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Plus Adelaide Williams b England  c1871   Lady's Maid Domestic 8 Eglinton Crescent, Edinburgh

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Re: Edward BEECH b.25 Nov 1866 (possibly Great Bookham, Surrey)
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 February 21 19:50 GMT (UK) »
Sisters baptism...

 Born 19th Jan  1902.
 Bapt 9th Feb 1902
 Father Edward mother Adelaide.St Mary the Virgin Walthamstow.

 A tree on Ancestry has her born Oban, Argyll Scotland.

 In 1939 Adelaide Greenway is not the redacted entry she is elsewhere listed married.

  Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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