James Slater - Victoria

[dunscore]

I am trying to research the children of James Slater b. 1867 Victoria and d. 1933 Victoria and his wife Martha Cecilia (nee Harvey) Slater, b. 1893 Victoria and d. 1977 Victoria.  They had six children.  I do have scant info on the first three (their full names and years of births, plus their deaths).  I am looking for anything on the other three children whose names I believe were Leo Vincent, Desmond Xavier and Joan Carmel. 

Also, James was previously married to Margaret Kathleen O'Neill b. 1867 Ireland.  James and Margaret had 7 children to my knowledge.  Margaret died in 1902.

One was Edgar James Daniel Slater who possibly married Helen Jackson.  I don't know where/when they married or when either died or any family.

Another child was Francis (Frank) Jos. (presumably Joseph) Slater b. 1902 in Victoria.  I have no other info on him.

I would be grateful for any help please.
Dunscore

[maddys52]

The Victorian Births Deaths and Marriages are free to search:
https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/efamily-history/6014aaf8f0825b1be9d908b0

James SLATER married Martha Cecilia HARVEY in 1922.

There is also a birth registered in 1911 with parents James SLATER and Margaret Kathleen NEIL - John Gerald Victor SLATER (at Ballarat as are the other births to this family). Are you sure Margaret died in 1902?

Modified to add:
Other births on Vic BDM to James SLATER and Margaret Kathleen (O'NEIL):
1900   Fred Martin
1902  Francis Joseph
1911  John Gerald Victor

I can't see a death for Margaret Kathleen SLATER (nee O'NEIL) in Victoria?

And of course, births are only indexed for those occurring 100 years ago, so only before 1921 at this stage.

[maddys52]

There is a marriage for Leo Vincent in 1958 and Desmond Xavier in 1952. I won't give details as they may still be living. 

[maddys52]

One was Edgar James Daniel Slater who possibly married Helen Jackson.  I don't know where/when they married or when either died or any family.

There is an engagement notice in Nov 1918 :
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article120993672

"The engagement is announced of ex-Private Edgar J. D. Slater, of Nhill, to Miss Helen Jackson, fourth daughter of Mr and Mrs J. W. Jackson, of 15 Thanet Street, Malvern."

[maddys52]

You can find Edgar's war record here:
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=8086265

[Jamjar]

As there is no evidence of deaths for the children born after 1922, their names should not have been posted, as per Rootschat policy.

6495/1892 SLATER Jas to ONEILL Margt Kathleen

7557/1922 SLATER James to HARVEY Martha Cecilia

The daughter, J C SLATER was still unmarried in early 60s, as she is on an electoral roll as SLATER, Yarra, Victoria. You will get her married name from one of her sister’s death notices.

13039/1902 SLATER Margt parents Maria CASSIDY and ONEIL Martin at CARLTON aged 37
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/204587126/margaret-k-slater

6191/1933 SLATER James parents REID Elizabeth and SLATER Daniel at FITZROY aged 68
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/204587125/james-slater
Death notice and funeral notices, 1st and 4th columns: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article204381697

14711/1977 SLATER Martha Cecilia parents TOST Martha and HARVEY William born Sarsfield died GEELONG aged 83
SLATER Martha Cecilia Death notice 24JUN1977 Death The Age (Melbourne) 25JUN1977
https://billiongraves.com/grave/Martha-Cecilia-SLATER/4967700

8234/1958 SLATER L V to CUZENS Fairlie Aileen

SLATER Fairlie Aileen Death notice 15SEP2000 Death Herald Sun (Melbourne) 16SEP2000

https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/tributes/notice/death-notices/slater-fairlie-aileen/3730714/

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/140768450/fairlie-aileen-slater

Andersons Creek Cemetery - Houghton Lawn, Grave 3939

SLATER Fairlie Aileen
Date of Birth: 11-4-1930
Date of Death: 15-9-2000
Age   70 Years
Service Date: 19-9-2000
ServiceType: Interred

Marriages and Deaths of daughters:

13018/1950 MCKINNON K J to SLATER Patricia Mary

23638/1964 MCKINNON Patricia Mary parents HARVEY Martha and SLATER James born KEW died RICHMOND aged 39

7160/1973 HOARE Margaret Dorothy parents HARVEY Martha Cecilia and SLATER James born KEW died MELBOURNE aged 49
HOARE Margaret Dorothy Death notice 15MAR1973 Death The Age (Melbourne) 17MAR1973
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/215704333/margaret-d-hoare

9156/1951 WRIGHT Harry James to SLATER Maureen Ada

26012/1977 WRIGHT Maureen Ada Reid parents HARVEY Martha and SLATER James born WANGARATTA dies DRYSDALE aged 51
Death and funeral notices, type 17 into small, white box: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01qbf/
https://billiongraves.com/grave/Maureen-Ada-Reid-Wright/1961146
2010, Harry’s death: https://www.legacy.com/guestbooks/heraldsun-au/harry-wright-condolences/147139040?cid=full


Jamjar

[Jamjar]

Births to James and Margaret, registered in Ballarat:

18891/1893 Edgar James Daniel
Married: 8026/1918 SLATER Edgar James to JACKSON Helen
Edgar’s possible death 1972, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article101993893
Helen’s death notice, type 24 into small white box: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01qbb/
Norwood Park Crematorium - Mitchell ACT
Edgar James SLATER   9-7-1972 11-7-1972
Helen SLATER 17-8-1978 18-8-1978

17712/1895 Reginald Joseph Nelson - death 208/1896
Ballarat Cemetery New - Roman Catholic A, Section 12, Grave 18
Reginald Joseph SLATER 22-1-1896

25344/1897 Eileen Mary Elizabeth
Married:
4502/1925 WATERS Chas to SLATER Eileen Mary Elizth
Deaths:
2914/1943 WATERS Eileen parents ONEILL Margaret Kathleen and SLATER James born BALLARAT died HEIDELBERG aged 43
1689/1957 WATERS Charles Vincent parents REED Ellen and WATERS John born GLENROWAN died FITZROY NORTH aged 72
Eileen’s death and funeral notices, 1st and 3rd columns: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article206856021
Charles’ death and funeral notices, type 10 into small, white box: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01qbe/
Fawkner Memorial Park - Roman Catholic T, Grave 2548
WATERS Eileen - 27 March 1943
WATERS Charles Vincent - 6 February 1957

7593/1899 Thomas William Henry
Married:
2743/1935 SLATER Thos Wm Hy to CHAPMAN Vera Edna
Deaths:
17853/1975 SLATER Thomas William Henry parents ONEILL Margaret Kathleen and SLATER James born BALLARAT died MELBOURNE SOUTH aged 76
22120/1983 SLATER Vera Edna parents THOMSON Alice and CHAPMAN Frederick William born HAWTHORN died BRIGHTON aged 82
Thomas’ death notice, type 8 into small, white box: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01qbd/
Thomas’ funeral notice, type 11 into small, white box: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01qbc/
Springvale Botanical Cemetery - The cremated remains have been scattered
SLATER Thomas William Henry - Cremated 16 July 1975
Springvale Botanical Cemetery - The cremated remains have been collected
SLATER Vera Edna Cremated - 30 September 1983

7594/1899 Veronica Frances Emma - I can’t find anything on her and as she was a twin, I wonder if she died at birth.

23773/1900 Fred Martin - death 11532/1900
Ballarat Cemetery New - Roman Catholic A, Section 12, Grave 18
Frederick SLATER 9-12-1900

340/1902 Francis Joseph
Possible marriage: 11167/1923 SLATER Fran Jos to CHANDLER Annie Louise
Deaths:
3065/1974 SLATER Annie parents Margaret FRASER and Harry CHANDLER born Swan Hill died Ballarat aged 73
2711/1976 SLATER Francis Joseph Alexander parents CHANDLER Annie and SLATER James born BALLARAT died BALLARAT aged 75 - wife erroneously recorded as mother.
Buried:
Ballarat Cemetery New - Lawn F Row 45 Grave 17
Annie SLATER - 73 Buried 11-12-1973
Francis Joseph A SLATER - 75 Buried 19-1-1976

Jamjar

[maddys52]

There is also a birth registered in 1911 with parents James SLATER and Margaret Kathleen NEIL - John Gerald Victor SLATER (at Ballarat as are the other births to this family). Are you sure Margaret died in 1902?

John Gerald Victor SLATER died in 1976 aged 79 according to the Victorian BDM index, (with parents James SLATER and Kathleen Margaret O'NEILL). Not sure why the birth wasn't registered earlier.

He married in 1923 to Hannah Myrtle WRIGHT. They had at least one child - Betty Lorriane who died aged 8 in 1931- funeral notice here:
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article203725667
(bottom right of page)
Hannah Myrtle SLATER died in 1980 aged 82, her parents Arthur James WRIGHT and Miranda MADDOCKS.

Searching trove you can find his appointment as Mechanic, Grade 1, 4th division in 1937, and retirement as telecommunication technician in 1961:
https://trove.nla.gov.au

[dunscore]

Thank you to Maddys 52, Gran and Jamjar for all your help in researching James Slater.

Some of the information confirmed what I had found and a lot of it was new information.
Although I can usually find SMH notices (as long as the papers have been digitized), I do have trouble with The Age and Herald Sun in Melbourne.
I could not locate The Age for the death of Martha Cecilia Slate which appeared 25 June 1977
or
Death for Margaret Dorothy Hoare whose death also in The Age on 17 March 1973.

I believe (from a distant relative) that Veronica Frances Emma b. 1899 married Laurence Michael Jones and had 7 children.  Apparently died from a stroke at 86, but that is only hearsay at moment.

I am not sure about Francis Joseph (Alexander) Slater either who possibly married Annie Louise Chandler.

Thank you jamjar, you certainly gave me a lot of information and I am very grateful.
Dunscore