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Re: Who was Philip Crick (1777-1816)?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 04 March 21 17:42 GMT (UK) »
Sorry josey! :P
I need to learn to type quicker - should have done that in lockdown 1  ;D
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
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CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Who was Philip Crick (1777-1816)?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 04 March 21 18:26 GMT (UK) »
Sorry josey! :P
I need to learn to type quicker - should have done that in lockdown 1  ;D

Haha, that touch typing course I took 10 years ago is clearly paying off!

I found another record that interests me...

There are only 2 Philip Cricks that I can find baptism records for around 1777. One of them never leaves his home town but I can't find any other records in the same area for the second one.

Philip CRICK
born 12 Nov 1778
baptised 5 Jan 1779
in Saint James, Bury Saint Edmunds, Suffolk

Father: Philip Crick
Mother: Susan(nah) - this is particularly interesting because Philip & Mary's first daughter was called Susannah.

It is quite a distance from Bury to London but he was a fruit salesman so maybe he moved for more work? Not outside the realms of possibility.
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Re: Who was Philip Crick (1777-1816)?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 04 March 21 19:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,
Apologies for being a bit vague in my request. I essentially want to know parents and background for Philip and Mary. A few more things to add:
Phillip Crick was, like you said, a fruit salesman, so it's not impossible that he moved from Bury St Edmunds. He was literate, as was his wife, suggesting a reasonably well-off background for him and his wife. As I said, 'William Pond' and 'Ann Goff' are the witnesses to Phillip and Mary's marriage, so presumably William is a brother or other relative of Mary's. I've checked out the Michell connection before, and they were quite prominent, being related to a director of the East India Company. The trouble is though, I contacted someone who did research on them, and he emailed me a copy of Boyd's IoL, which lists John and Oriana Pond and their children. Maria Pond died a few years after being born, as did her brother, William. So I have a feeling we're dealing with someone else. I think William Pond and Ann Goff might be the key to solving this...
Thanks,
Francis


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Re: Who was Philip Crick (1777-1816)?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 04 March 21 19:09 GMT (UK) »
I'd attach a photo of the BIoL, but attachments don't seem to work for me today for some reason  :-\

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Re: Who was Philip Crick (1777-1816)?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 04 March 21 21:11 GMT (UK) »
Spiked my interest even more now - I was born in Bury St Edmunds!!

You can't add attachments on a look up board, FrancisGrn.

ADDED: St Mary's Whitechapel have a baptism of an Ann Goff 3 Mar 1776 d/o Wm & Bridget of Whites Yard.
A Marriage of an Ann Goff to James Curtis 12 Jan 1802 St Giles Camberwell
Also an Ann Goff married Samuel Morina 5 Sep 1791 Wapping [so it can't be her who witnessed a 1798 marriage as Ann Goff] & both made their mark.
Another Ann Goff [made mark] married John Moses 21 Nov 1804 St Mary's Whitechapel

Did Ann Goff sign or make her mark in 1798?
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Who was Philip Crick (1777-1816)?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 04 March 21 21:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Both William Pond and Ann Goff signed with their names. If we suppose that Ann Goff was an aunt of Mary's, then perhaps there might be a Goff-Pond marriage somewhere?. Also, I'm looking to try and find more out about Philip Crick Sr and his wife Susan(nah). I'm seeing two Bury St Edmunds marriages. One is in 1764, without a maiden name for Susannah, the other in 1778 to a Susannah Mills.

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Re: Who was Philip Crick (1777-1816)?
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 04 March 21 22:11 GMT (UK) »
Annoyingly (as is often the case!), there appears to have been at least 2 couples in Bury in the late 18th century whose names were Philip & Susan Crick. In my opinion, Philip Crick Jnr. b.1778, was born to Philip Crick & Susan(nah) Mills. They were married on 2 May 1778 and Philip was born on 12 Nov 1778 so it looks like, as with many couples, they were expecting a child when they married.

Here are the children (I believe) were born to Philip Crick & Susan(nah) Mills in Bury St Edmunds:

Philip b. 1778 bap. 1779

Susanna b. 1779 bap. 1797

Elizabeth b. 1782 bap. 1797

Charlotte b. 1784 bap. 1797

Mary Ann b. 1787 bap. 1797

Edmund b. 1790 bap. 1797

Frances Sophia b. 1792 bap. 1795 (On Frances' baptism, her mother is listed as Susan MILLS)

As you can see, many were not baptised as babies and quite a few of them were baptised on Christmas Day in 1797.

Queenie  :)
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Re: Who was Philip Crick (1777-1816)?
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 04 March 21 22:23 GMT (UK) »
I think I might have found a link!

On Philip Crick Jnr.'s burial record in 1816, his abode is listed as 'Maiden Lane.' He was buried in St Paul, Covent Garden.

Susannah Mills, the mother of the Bury St Edmunds Philip Crick Jnr., is listed as 19 on her marriage certificate, meaning she was born in c. 1759.

There is a Susan Crick who was buried in St Paul, Covent Garden in 1832. She died at the age of 73, meaning she was born in c. 1759 and her abode is listed as 'Maiden Lane!'

Maybe she moved to Covent Garden to be with her son? This seems like a massive coincidence if it's not her.
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Re: Who was Philip Crick (1777-1816)?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 04 March 21 23:22 GMT (UK) »
Wow, thanks so much  :D. I've found a line. Any luck on Mary Pond?
Francis