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Re: Two burials of same name exactly 1 year apart
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 16 February 21 10:36 GMT (UK) »
As it looks like the Roberts bapt in 1757 and 1759 have been dispatched, could Robert be older than you think and this is a second marriage.

There is a Robert bapt 1740, who I think married on14 Oct 1764 to Elizabeth Fivochell (odd name but only seeing transcript) at Wooburn. Banns record says he was of Gt Marlow but marriage says Lt Marlow.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Two burials of same name exactly 1 year apart
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 16 February 21 10:41 GMT (UK) »
Forget that last one, Free reg has transcription and says Robert was a bachelor. witnesses Thomas Allam and W Arnold
In case it is relevant to wider family later Freereg has Elizabeth with the odd surname as Twitchell.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Two burials of same name exactly 1 year apart
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 16 February 21 10:54 GMT (UK) »
You might already have this. Ann Gray wife of Robert buried 10 Nov 1816 age 64 ( b abt 1752). She was around 26 when married.

Just rechecked and it says 'wife of' not 'widow of', implying Robert was still alive in 1816.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Two burials of same name exactly 1 year apart
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 16 February 21 15:28 GMT (UK) »
Thanks all for the replies and info, especially to LizzieL for the new leads.

I know that with records of this age there is often an element of 'best guess' as the detail recorded is so scant. It's also further complicated in that there appear to be a number of Gray families living in Great Marlow around that time and into the 1800's and there does appear to be two or three generations of Robert at various stages and in at least one occurrence, both married someone of the same name.

Going through things though, unless I've missed something, the most likely scenario based on the records found so far is that:

Robert Gray was baptised 04/01/1757 to parents Robert and Elizabeth

Ann Allum was born c1752

Robert married Ann Allum 23/02/1778 Robert aged 21, Ann aged 26

Ann Allum was buried 10/11/1816

Robert was buried 28/05/1837

All the dates do seem to match up. The thing I'm less certain about is Robert only being 21 when he married when Ann was 26. Whilst certainly not impossible, it just 'feels' a little too much of an age gap for people so young.

It's entirely possible that Robert wasn't born in Great Marlow, it's just that 3-4 generations after him were all from there. Indeed I'm really struggling to trace this line any further back than this.
Johnson: London & Maidstone
Foster: Essex
Leach: London
Jennings, Camberwell, London
Gray: South London
Dashwood: London
Mason: Maidstone & London
Neville/Stiff: Hampshire & USA