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Joel Curtis, also known as Joseph, (also known commonly as Brimble)
« on: Tuesday 16 February 21 16:05 GMT (UK) »
I'm researching Joel Curtis, also known as Joseph, (and also known commonly as Brimble) of Farmborough, Somerset.

Please can you help me to find a census record for 1871 and a marriage record.

He was baptised as Joel Curtis on 21 Apr 1844 in High Littleton, Somerset, England. He died on 16 August 1913 at the County Asylum, Wells, Somerset where he’s listed as ’Curtis - Joel or Joseph’.

His father was James Curtis who was also known commonly as James Brimble. (James’ mother Ann Curtis/Curtice had 4 sons when she was single, before she married William Brimble in 1813.)

The 1861 census records him as Joel Brimble, son of James Brimble.  He was living with his family in Farmborough, Somerset and was employed like his father James Brimble as a Coal Miner.

Around 1866 he married Ann.  Some trees on Ancestry list her as Ann Lansdown Sweet but without records to confirm this.

Their first child was born in Somerset, the next two in Wales, so likely that they were in Wales in 1871:

Birth of Daughter Levinia Curtis, 1867 • Clutton, Somerset, England
Birth of Son Joseph Curtis abt 1870 • Mountain Ash, Glamorgan, Wales
Birth of Son James Curtis abt 1872 • Mountain Ash, Glamorgan, Wales
Birth of Son Gomer Curtis, 1874 • Clutton, Somerset, England.

The 1881 census records him as Joseph Curtis living at Clutton Hill, Farmborough, Somerset with his wife Ann and 6 children, employed as a Coal Miner.

I have records after this date.

Thank you.

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Re: Joel Curtis, also known as Joseph, (also known commonly as Brimble)
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 16 February 21 16:29 GMT (UK) »
In 1871 they appear to be in Mountain Ash as Brimble - RG10/5377 fo75 p78
Researching among others:
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Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Joel Curtis, also known as Joseph, (also known commonly as Brimble)
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 16 February 21 16:31 GMT (UK) »
You can check birth registrations for the children to confirm mothers maiden name.

Caleb Curtis born Dec 1877 Clutton has mothers maiden name Sweet.
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Joel Curtis, also known as Joseph, (also known commonly as Brimble)
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 16 February 21 16:33 GMT (UK) »
Possible marriage in Dec 1870 Merthyr T

Joseph Curtis
Harriet Organ
Ann Sweet
other grooms name missing but the two we are looking for are there.

Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos


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Re: Joel Curtis, also known as Joseph, (also known commonly as Brimble)
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 February 21 16:37 GMT (UK) »
Son Joseph was registered as a Brimble Sep 1869 Pontypridd mothers name Sweet.

Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Joel Curtis, also known as Joseph, (also known commonly as Brimble)
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 16 February 21 17:16 GMT (UK) »
the other name on that page of marriages is John Hughes and there's a birth reg for Harriet Jane Hughes dec qtr 1872 Merthyr Tydfil mmn Organ, so looks like Joseph Curtis & Ann Sweet match up.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2D25-CPT
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Joel Curtis, also known as Joseph, (also known commonly as Brimble)
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 February 21 17:18 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everyone for your quick and helpful responses which seem to complete the picture.

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Re: Joel Curtis, also known as Joseph, (also known commonly as Brimble)
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 February 21 17:43 GMT (UK) »
Lavinia was registered as Lavinia Bremble sept qtr 1866 Merthyr Tydfil vol 11a pg 432 mmn Sweet.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb