Mathew Didwell 1781-1853 Norfolk help

[diddymen]

Afternoon,

I'm stuck again 

Tracing John Didwell 1816-1869  - I'm happy with his details, but it's his parents I'm having trouble with.

The 1851 census shows Mathew Didwell age 73 (miss transcribed as dodwell) as a widower visitor born Hilgay Norfolk, in the same house as John Didwell (so I assume he is likely John's father) in Walpole at peter

1841 census has Mathew age 60 living in Walpole at peter, living on his own age 60

I've found lots of electoral registers for Mathew Didwell living at West drove in Walpole at peter

I've also found the baptism transcripts of John Didwell for 22 Dec 1816, showing his parents as Mathew and Mary.

All good so far! But now things get more confusing.

I couldn't find any marriage of birth/baptism records for Mathew to start looking for his parents. For a while I thought I'd solved it, as I found marriage records (Norfolk transcripts) for Mathew Diddle, marrying Mary Brooks April 1810 in the next parish Tilney at Lawrence. Dates seem fine as John is born 6 yrs later.

I've also found a baptism transcript for the baptism of Mathew Diddle Apr 1778 in Hilgay (not found anything similar for Didwell) it shows Mathew's parents as John and Susanna.

I have some earlier and later marriages for Mathew Didwell (to Ann Oliver, and Jane Kidd)

But I'm not 100% convinced the change in name from Diddle to didwell is the same person, particularly now I've dug a bit deeper and found more records that seems to conflict

I've also found records on ancestry for a marriage between Mathew Diddle to Mary mason in 1789 (can't be right as Mathew would be 6)

A baptism for John Diddle parents Mathew and Mary but the date is June 1794

But I've also found a baptism transcript for Jane Diddle parents Mathew and Mary in Walpole at peter date may 1819. But by this time he was known as Didwell on other records

I have another baptism for Ann Diddle, march 1799, parents Mathew and Mary - before the date of the marriage records I'd found

Bear in mind I have a marriage record dated may 1802 between Mathew Dedwell of Walpole at peter and Jane Kidd (assume this is the same Mathew)

I'm completely confused so any help untangling this is appreciated

[roopat]

I can't help you with the family but it's Walpole ST Peter and Tilney ST Lawrence. Might make a difference at some point.


Good luck


Pat

[diddymen]

Doh!

Phone autocorrected ST to at !, Sorry, should have checked before posting!

[spendlove]

Hi

Mathew Diddle = Jane Kidd3.5.1802 wiggenhall St. German, Norfolk
  Mathew of Parish of Walpole St. Peter Jane of this parish both single
They had all Bpt Walpole St. Peter
George dedwell 3.4.1803
Diana  16.4.1809
George  8.6.1807
Jane was buried Walpole St. Peter 10.12.1809
 As Jane wife of Mathew Diddle (Kidd spinster) aged 31

Mathew then marries Mary Brooks 2.4.1810 at Tilley all Saints
  As Mathew Diddle Widower of Parish of Walpole St. Peter
       Mary Brooks of this Parish single.

They then have Bpt Walpole St. Peter

Susannah 19.10.1813
John 22.12.1816

There may be other children, but from the images of Parish registers I have looked at think that Mathew was the Father of John who he appears with on the 1851 Census.

Only concern is that John consistently states born 1818 when it was actually 1816.

Images of all the above on Ancestry.

Spendlove

[spendlove]

Hi,

Using the info for Mathew given on the 1851 Census I.e. born 1778 Hilgay, Norfolk

Bpt. 27th April 1778 Hilgay, Norfolk Mathew Diddle Son of John and Susanna Diddle.

Spendlove

[diddymen]

Many thanks spendlove, it's great to hear I might be on the right lines! And that Mathew Didwell and Mathew Diddle could be the same person.

I'm sure I found a few conflicts that appeared like they lived in parallel (suggesting different people) I'll have another look at the docs I found.

That was the main reason I wanted a little reassurance from the experts on here, that I wasn't barking up the wrong tree

[trish1120]

Marriage;
Susanna REYNOLDS
John DIDDLE 26 Apr 1775 Hilgay
Bachelor/Spinster
(FreeREG)

Trish

[roopat]

Doh!

Phone autocorrected ST to at !, Sorry, should have checked before posting!

LOL! I was only grumbling about auto-correct recently on another thread 

[diddymen]

Spent another couple of hours yesterday on Mathew and found the following

Bapt of John  on 11 Apr 1790 to Mathew and Mary Diddle, Welney Norfolk

Bapt of Denstone Diddle on 12 sept 1786 to Mathew and Rebecca Diddle, Welney Norfolk

Both of which would mean Mathew Didwell would have been under 10yrs at the time

Having a look at his possible mother Susanna Reynolds.

I've found Susanna Diddell on the 1851 and 1861 census living ( and dieing) in Huntingdonshire, Cambridge

I know people move around, but all of the above don't fit nicely with Mathew Didwell also being Mathew Diddle, so I'm still uncomfortable taking this as fact.

Your collective thoughts would be appreciated