Author Topic: Emily Griffiths b c1862 Usk[?]Monmouthshire–desperately seeking Emily’s family  (Read 1956 times)

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Can’t find any birth record or much family background for this GGMother.

[Family story is that she was from a family of gaolers, from Usk, Monmouthshire – is this true?]

10 Dec 1883, Married Henry James Day, Register Office, Newport.
On MC: age 22, name, ‘Emily Griffiths.’ Residence ‘59 Marches Road, Newport’. Father’s name: ‘James Griffiths,’ a ‘Sawyer’, [belies family story about Usk gaolers].

19 Dec 1884, first child, Maud Emily, BC residence ‘59 Marches Road, Newport.’

1 Nov 1888, second daughter, Beatrice, BC residence  ‘48 William Street, Newport. On this BC, Emily is listed as ‘Emily Day, late Addis, formerly Griffiths.’

If, when she married Henry in 1883 she was remarrying as a widow / divorcee (rare then but why a Register office marriage!?), no record of marriage between an ‘Addis’ and a ‘Griffiths’, during the period 1870-1883 found yet. [Can anyone else find one for me?]

1891 Census – Emily, Maud and Beatrice only, at Nelson St, Newport:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4KRM-XMM
can’t find husband Henry James Day. [Where was he?]

1 Mar 1895 third child William Henry Day [registered in Newport.]

c1895? family went to Valencia, Spain to manage a ‘Patent Fuel Works’
[I know what PF is but are there any experts on the 1890s Spanish patent fuel industry  ;D  and where this might have been or where they lived exactly?)
c1896-7? Shipwrecked on way home at Cabo de Gata near Nijar, south-east of Almeria on the south-east coast of Spain and lost everything. [What ship was it? What was the date?]

I have no idea how they managed to return to the UK – they were penniless. [Any thoughts or suggestions where there may be evidence?]

1901 Census entire family (5) resident: 5 Redland St, Newport, Emily’s birthplace: ‘Monmouthshire, Usk’,
1911 Census (parents plus William Henry only) resident at 54 Caerleon Rd, Newport.

C1911-12 Family (parents plus William Henry only) emigrated to NZ.

15 Aug 1914 Emily died Auckland, New Zealand, buried at Waikumete Cemetery; her age on contemporary memorials is 52; again, this places birth date around 1861-3.
[When and where was she born? Who were her parental family etc?]

Thanks in advance to any experts out there who can help me unravel this one. Peter


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Re: Emily Griffiths b c1862 Usk[?]Monmouthshire–desperately seeking Emily’s family
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 February 21 16:25 GMT (UK) »
Before I have a look for it, do you have Emily on the 1881 census?

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Re: Emily Griffiths b c1862 Usk[?]Monmouthshire–desperately seeking Emily’s family
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 17 February 21 16:30 GMT (UK) »
The 1881 census might start to help unravel the Griffiths/Addis connection.

Twyn Square, Usk

James Griffiths  78  Head  Widower  Sawyer
Elizabeth Williams  84  MOther in law  Widow
Elizabeth Addis  30  Dau  Widow  Assistant
Alfred Griffiths  18  Son  Unm  Haulier
Maud Addis  4  Gdau
Harry Griffiths  8months  GSon

All born in Usk

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Re: Emily Griffiths b c1862 Usk[?]Monmouthshire–desperately seeking Emily’s family
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 17 February 21 16:32 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth Griffiths married James Addis, Sept qtr 1873, Chepstow, 11a 4


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Re: Emily Griffiths b c1862 Usk[?]Monmouthshire–desperately seeking Emily’s family
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 17 February 21 16:36 GMT (UK) »
If we go back to the 1871 census,

Twyn, Usk
James Griffiths  Head  wid  56
Elizabeth Griffiths  Dau  Unm  20
Emma Griffiths  Dau  Unm  11
Alfred Griffiths  Son  Unm  8
Betsy Williams  Lodger  Wid  75

And then further back to the 1861:
Twyn, Usk
James Griffiths  Head  mar  46  Ag lab
Martha Williams  Boarder  Unm  34
Elizabeth Williams  Boarder  Unm 10
Mary Ann Williams  Boarder  Unm 7
Sarah Williams  Boarder  Unm 4
Emma Williams  Boarder  Unm 1

So, working hypothesis - Emily Griffiths started life as Emma Williams (father presumably James Griffiths - already married and can't marry Martha Williams?)

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Re: Emily Griffiths b c1862 Usk[?]Monmouthshire–desperately seeking Emily’s family
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 17 February 21 17:15 GMT (UK) »
James was a widower in 1851

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGTG-JM1

Possible marriage 1 March 1852 parish church of Trevethin for James Griffiths sawyer & Caroline Richards, his father James also a sawyer. But he is noted as a bachelor.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Emily Griffiths b c1862 Usk[?]Monmouthshire–desperately seeking Emily’s family
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 17 February 21 17:35 GMT (UK) »
1891 Census – Emily, Maud and Beatrice only, at Nelson St, Newport:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4KRM-XMM
can’t find husband Henry James Day. [Where was he?]

Also at Nelson St, Newport  (number 58) in 1891 is:

James Griffiths  Head  Wid  78  Sawyer
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John Addis  Head  Mar  41  Blacksmith  bn Newport
Elizabeth Addis  Wife  MAr  36  bn Usk
Maud Addis  Dau  13  bn Usk
Harry Addis  Son  11  bn Usk
George Bubb  Boarder  24  General Labourer
William Bubb  Boarder  19  General Labourer

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Re: Emily Griffiths b c1862 Usk[?]Monmouthshire–desperately seeking Emily’s family
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 17 February 21 17:46 GMT (UK) »
that's interesting given that Elizabeth was enumerated as a widow in 1881  & son Harry was Griffiths not Addis. I'd found a possible burial for James Addis as well.   ::)

1851 for Martha

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGTG-S8Q
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Emily Griffiths b c1862 Usk[?]Monmouthshire–desperately seeking Emily’s family
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 17 February 21 17:53 GMT (UK) »
Yes - they seem to be rather fluid about their marital status!!