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Some help deciphering administration from 1614
« on: Thursday 18 February 21 10:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi All

I am usually not too bad with deciphering some old wills and handwriting, but finding this one a touch frustrating.

Some background - this relates to a widow Jane Parvis/Parvys - previously had lived at Soley in Chilton Foliat, Wiltshire but seemingly after her husband Henry's death in 1588 signed over her interest in the property to her son Jewell/Juell/Joel in 1594 and next record of her is this administration in 1614 managed by her son in law Humphrey Gunter who had married her eldest daughter Elizabeth. By then she was living in West Knoyle, Wiltshire.

Her husband's will gives the names of their children as Joel (aka Jewell), John, Richard, Thomas, Elizabeth Gunter, Joane/Jane, Anne, Mary and Valentyne. I am not sure if Valentine ends up being known as Edith as Jane's son Thomas's will of 1617 mentions his sister Edith but no mention of Valentyne.

The following is available on Ancestry via the Wiltshire Wills collection and is copyright Wiltshire and Swindon Archives and is reproduced in order to help with deciphering in chunks:


"The account of Humfrey Gunter admin ? the goods of Jane Parvys late of Knoyell ? in the County of Wilts made before Mr Hungerford Chancellor? To the ? ? of ? the 6th of November Anno Dom 1614
(can’t read next line)"


"The discharge
Imprimis the ? to be ? out of the inventorie two ould bibbles ? at ? one ould ? gowne at xxs (20s). An ould ? hyms ? value at x? an other ould ? ? (struggling to make out most the the rest of that portion.)
 ? ? in and about the funeral ? ? John Parvis for (can’t read rest)

Item spent in travelling from ? ? fawle (I am thinking as Humfrey lived in Fawley, Berkshire) to Knoyell and for writing the inventories.
? travel ? to Newberry/Newbury for the ? ? and for the ? hereof/thereof?
(Struggling to read the rest.

Last section in Latin – but contains names relating to Jane’s children, Jewell, John, Richard – crossed out, Thomas, Elizabeth Anne, Jane, possibly Edith and Marie/Mary.)


The second page I will post as a reply to this as two more attachments to include.
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk<br />Marshall: Leeds/Silkstone/Ashton/Hyde. Griffiths: Llanrhaeder ym Mochnant/Glyn Ceiriog/Ashton. Pilley: Chelmsford/Maldon. Hallas: Ashton/Stalybridge. Large: Tarvin/Manchester/Mossley. McDonald: Ireland/Whitfield/Mossley.

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Re: Some help deciphering administration from 1614
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 February 21 10:10 GMT (UK) »
Second page:

First section in Latin.

The conditions of his? Obligation is ?, that ? by the authoritie of the above named Richard Player in God the Lord Bishop of Srum the admin thereof of all and singular the goods, chattles and credits of Jane Parvis late of the said the ? of Knoyle ? ? the countie of is committed ? ? and committed and ? ? Humfrey Gunter ? ? Humfrey Gunter does? Shall satisffie and paid the debts and legacies of the said Jane Parvis deceased ? ?  on or at the time of her decease sofar ? as the goods and credits will ? ? aforesaid the ? ? ? in that ? and doe also maintain and satisfie the ? by ? ? to be exhibited at or before ? ? to be the full and ? inventorie of all and singular the goods credits of the said deceased and ? ? doe? ? and ? ? ? ? at ? and after around? ? at or one ? the shall St Michaele the Archangel next ? And ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? further order in and about ? ? ? of the said goods and by the Judge of this Court? ? shall be? Ordered directed and appointed that ? ? ? obligations to be ? ? ? offered, or allow? To stand and be in full ? and virtue?

Can’t read most of the last bit re signatures but signed by Humfry Gunter


Thank you in advance for any help improving my own transcription and providing any missing bits!
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk<br />Marshall: Leeds/Silkstone/Ashton/Hyde. Griffiths: Llanrhaeder ym Mochnant/Glyn Ceiriog/Ashton. Pilley: Chelmsford/Maldon. Hallas: Ashton/Stalybridge. Large: Tarvin/Manchester/Mossley. McDonald: Ireland/Whitfield/Mossley.

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Re: Some help deciphering administration from 1614
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 February 21 14:06 GMT (UK) »
Snippet 2.

The Discharge.

1.    Imprimis the ............   to be deducted
2.    out of the inventurie two ould bibles
3.    pro?sed at Vs one ould (gregran) gowne
4.    at xxd an ould hat lyned w(it)h velvet
5.    at xviij an other ould hatt & a reffett
6.    savegard at iiijd the same being torne
7.    & worne & would yeuld no money in
8.    respecte whereas the  .......... allowance
9.    .........  overall sumes extending
10.  in the whoale to the sume of
                                                                    viijs vjd.
                                                                           

Long time since I've done any of this so look out for the errors!!

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PENDAL & variants: Suffolk; Bardwell, Tannington, Weybread, Dennington & Worlingworth
ELLINOR: Suffolk; Redgrave/ Gislingham.
GRAYSTON: Suffolk; Ipswich.
GIRLING: Suffolk; Stradbroke/Ipswich
HAWES: Suffolk; Harkstead/Holbrook/Capel St Mary/Ipswich
BECK: Co Durham; Chopwell & Northumberland; Newcastle upon Tyne.
MILLER: Cumberland; Mawbray/Hayrigg/ Silloth.
FAIRLAM: Co Durham; Allendale Cottages, Low Westwood, Milkwell Burn.
WESTGARTH: Co Durham; Bishop Auckland

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Re: Some help deciphering administration from 1614
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 February 21 14:25 GMT (UK) »
The dischardge:

Inprimis he craveth to be deducted...

...preysed at vs...

...hatt & a russett...

...respecte whereof he prayeth allowance
of those severall summes extending
in the whoale to the sume of...


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Re: Some help deciphering administration from 1614
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 February 21 14:38 GMT (UK) »
Following the previous:

It(e)m spent in & about the funerall ____ Ls

It(e)m p(ai)d to John Parvis her son for the    }
[bourde?] of her w(hi)ch he [lyed?] out           }   xxs

Item spent in travelling from                            }
this Accomptant(es) howse to Knoyell            }   xs xjd
& for writing the Inventaries                            }

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Re: Some help deciphering administration from 1614
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 February 21 14:52 GMT (UK) »
More dischardge:

It(e)m travelling to Newberry for the      }
administrac(i)on & for the fees thereof  }   xs iiijd

It(e)m p(ro)cters fee for advise _________iijs iiijd

It(e)m spent in travelling about             }
fetching the good(es) from Knoyell to    }    vs viijd
this Accomptant(es) howse                       }

It(e)m in & about passing this accompt ________xxvs iiijd

It(e)m this Accomptant(es) chardges in   }
& about passing this accompt               }   vjs viijd

                           Summa ____________vijli ixd



That's me out for a while.

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Re: Some help deciphering administration from 1614
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 February 21 14:58 GMT (UK) »
Now the end of the English part of the dischardge:

So there remayneth in          }
this accomptant(es) hand(es)   }        xiiijli viijs xjd

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Re: Some help deciphering administration from 1614
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 February 21 15:28 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much - certainly helping understand a bit more about the document. Hopefully get some more understanding on the rest later. Really appreciate the help so far horsleydown86 and Hephzibah!
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk<br />Marshall: Leeds/Silkstone/Ashton/Hyde. Griffiths: Llanrhaeder ym Mochnant/Glyn Ceiriog/Ashton. Pilley: Chelmsford/Maldon. Hallas: Ashton/Stalybridge. Large: Tarvin/Manchester/Mossley. McDonald: Ireland/Whitfield/Mossley.

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Re: Some help deciphering administration from 1614
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 18 February 21 15:41 GMT (UK) »
Dear Horsleydown, I've been hoping you'd come on so I could see where I'd gone wrong. Thank you, it really helps as well as helping the initial poster!
Please could you tell me what kind of gown is it in Snip 2 Line 3 and is the spelling correct?
Hephzibah
PENDAL & variants: Suffolk; Bardwell, Tannington, Weybread, Dennington & Worlingworth
ELLINOR: Suffolk; Redgrave/ Gislingham.
GRAYSTON: Suffolk; Ipswich.
GIRLING: Suffolk; Stradbroke/Ipswich
HAWES: Suffolk; Harkstead/Holbrook/Capel St Mary/Ipswich
BECK: Co Durham; Chopwell & Northumberland; Newcastle upon Tyne.
MILLER: Cumberland; Mawbray/Hayrigg/ Silloth.
FAIRLAM: Co Durham; Allendale Cottages, Low Westwood, Milkwell Burn.
WESTGARTH: Co Durham; Bishop Auckland