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Re: Mystery surname
« Reply #18 on: Friday 19 February 21 22:10 GMT (UK) »
Also there is a death of a John Holdcroft Smith in 1856
Age 72
(Late?) Band Master H.M. 67th Royal Irish Fusiliers
Says female!

What happened to Frances?
Willsy, it  is remarkable stuff that you have dug up.
It could be Robert Sherlock of the 29th, and wife Frances who married in Macclesfield.
Or an amazing coincidence!
Though we still await possible further military records for Robert.
Not making much sense regarding Henrietta Stewart though. Unless she was illegitimate or something like that :-\


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Re: Mystery surname
« Reply #19 on: Friday 19 February 21 22:30 GMT (UK) »
Can't see anything for Frances but the other marriages throw up Thomas Hubbard Sherlock...Inspector of Police 1858, might help the search
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Re: Mystery surname
« Reply #20 on: Friday 19 February 21 22:44 GMT (UK) »
Ah, yes, I see him now, he is a witness on a couple of marriages.
And here is your Robert Sherlock the witness from the 1830 marriage (Robert Forrest + Sarah Abbot)
http://www.cgmrgenealogie.org/actes/acte_mari.php?xid=314322&xct=6497

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Re: Mystery surname
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 20 February 21 03:32 GMT (UK) »
A bit of info from Robert Sherlock's service records:

Served (no dates given)
1 year in the Penisula
4 months in Gibraltar
11 months in North America
3 years and 4 months with the Army of (Recupation?) in France
7 years and 5 months in the Mauritius

Most of what I can see is regarding an event in 1833 (in Mauritius), which cost him his arm.

He stated he was out walking with two of his children.  They were returning home and had to go up a steep bank.  He went first, but knowing the children would need a hand, lowered the butt of his rifle down for the first one to grab on to in order to pull him up.  Somehow the weapon discharged shattering his upper arm. Long story short, it was amputated later that night.
The investigation (mandatory to prove accident vs anything else) into this included testimony from one of his sons present, a James Sherlock.  James stated he and his brother were following their father home; unfortunately he never said his brother's name.

In February 1834, he wrote that he was no longer capable of carrying out his duties and asked to be discharged, adding that he wanted to remain in the colony.  The deputy Adjutant General of Port Louis wrote on his behalf that Robert "was an old and deserving soldier who might yet have served some years but for the unlucky accident which lately caused him the loss of his left arm and whose unexceptionable character gives him the strongest claims to any indulgence."

I don't know if the son James will help or hinder the hunt, but good luck!  It doesn't appear that Robert ever went by the Stewart name.  Adopted perhaps? 
Hopefully you can track his other children down for clues?

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Re: Mystery surname
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 20 February 21 11:59 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks to everyone for all your input.
Bbart, could I ask where you found the details of where he was posted? I have a "service record" from when he was discharged which gives the dates of his promotions, plus the duration of his posting in Mauritius but no other details of postings.
And where did you find the details of his accident with a rifle? That's an amazing piece of information.

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Re: Mystery surname
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 20 February 21 17:49 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks to everyone for all your input.
Bbart, could I ask where you found the details of where he was posted? I have a "service record" from when he was discharged which gives the dates of his promotions, plus the duration of his posting in Mauritius but no other details of postings.
And where did you find the details of his accident with a rifle? That's an amazing piece of information.

It was all in the "British service record"* at Findmypast.  There was not a lot on actual service... the main focus of the pages they had was on the shooting incident.  Unfortunately, the very last image they hold doesn't load, so there might be a tiny bit more info about it, or hopefully, it's just a closing page.

*Edit:  Taking another look, it states it is from the series Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913

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Re: Mystery surname
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 20 February 21 17:57 GMT (UK) »

3 years and 4 months with the Army of (Recupation?) in France

Took another look at this; it must be the Army of Occupation.  The writer makes very strange capital O's!

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Re: Mystery surname
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 20 February 21 21:40 GMT (UK) »
Had a look at overseas births Mauritius and just noting the 3 indexed

George Henry Sherlock 1831
Sarah Frances Sherlock 1831
William Henry Sherlock 1833

and a passenger list for a Mrs Sherlock and child from Mauritius to Australia

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7HHS-44W2

passengers arriving can be found on Trove
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Re: Mystery surname
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 21 February 21 16:45 GMT (UK) »
I have looked up the Examination of Invalid Soldiers record you refer to but I cannot see the details of the accident that you mention, e.g. the letter requesting his discharge and the information about walking with his children when the accident happened. I have only recently taken out a sub to Findmypast so it maybe because I don't know my way around it properly. Your help would be greatly appreciated.