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Birth Certificate Questions
« on: Saturday 20 February 21 14:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi, My questions relate to a marriage in 1949 England.

On the marriage certificate, different addresses were given in the town. Is there a length of time they have to be resident before marrying? Three months before, their child was born in Manchester.

Married in a Roman Catholic church, if either were from, what is now the Republic of Ireland, would anything else like documentation be required? That year, the Republic was formed.

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Re: Birth Certificate Questions
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 20 February 21 14:44 GMT (UK) »
An RC church might ask to see a baptism certificate, to show they were Catholic.

There is no time limit that you have to live at an address before you can marry - it would be the address they were living at (or gave) at the time they gave notice to the registrar (being RC , it wouldn't be "by banns").

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Re: Birth Certificate Questions
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 20 February 21 14:48 GMT (UK) »
Their could be a note in the baptism register in their home parish too.
My parents marriage in 1937 in England, is annotated on the register for my fatherís baptism.
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Re: Birth Certificate Questions
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 20 February 21 15:08 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your comments. An RC marriage is a first in my family.
Would the church have further details?
I would like to trace where he was from.
I cannot imagine any notice in her former church, she was not RC.
From the family, it is believed he was from the Republic of Ireland, but that may not be accurate.

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Re: Birth Certificate Questions
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 20 February 21 15:55 GMT (UK) »
I thought you meant that you knew the couple were both Irish.
The first thing would be to get the marriage certificate for his fatherís name.
It would be difficult to go back to a birth record for your man but the certificate is a start.

Did they marry in Manchester?
The church records where they were married might have a note.
Scroll down for Parish registers
https://www.dioceseofsalford.org.uk/diocese/archives/
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Re: Birth Certificate Questions
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 20 February 21 16:52 GMT (UK) »
The marriage certificate arrived this morning.
I have the father's name (deceased) and occupation. The age suggests he was born in 1925.
Looking at FamilySearch it is a common name, which is not narrowed any with the father's name. I cannot find anything other, like census records that identify families.

She was not Irish. I am still waiting for the certificates but it seems they had a child 3 months before in Manchester, but did not marry there. He travelled because of his work, so married 90 miles away. I need to wait for the birth certificate to arrive, which may give more information.

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Re: Birth Certificate Questions
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 20 February 21 16:56 GMT (UK) »
Thatís difficult.
Irish civil births are online to 1920 at https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
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Re: Birth Certificate Questions
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 20 February 21 22:32 GMT (UK) »
Also, bear in mind that the last available Irish census is 1911.
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Re: Birth Certificate Questions
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 21 February 21 15:23 GMT (UK) »
An RC church might ask to see a baptism certificate, to show they were Catholic.

There is no time limit that you have to live at an address before you can marry - it would be the address they were living at (or gave) at the time they gave notice to the registrar (being RC , it wouldn't be "by banns").

Banns would have been read in church on 3 Sundays.
Were marriage witnesses relatives?
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