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Offline heywood

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Re: Birth Certificate Questions
« Reply #18 on: Monday 22 February 21 12:56 GMT (UK) »
There could be all sorts of issues. Having the child before the marriage might have brought on a marriage that they would not have otherwise committed to.
I hope the church gets back to you - responses can vary.

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Re: Birth Certificate Questions
« Reply #19 on: Monday 22 February 21 15:52 GMT (UK) »

Whilst conversion to the faith was encouraged, there was no requirement (forcing)  to do so. The other party, I think, and Maiden Stone will clarify, were asked to promise to raise any children in the Catholic faith.

I agree that would have been the situation in 1949.
Many examples of mixed marriages in registers of St. Mary R.C. Bacup on LAN-OPC. There was a high incidence of mixed marriage in the years before WW1 at that church. Dispensations were obtained. A note for one says the marriage took place in the sacristry (room where vestments &c. were kept). My mother mentioned a wedding in our church's porch in 1940's. A lot depended on attitude of the parish priest; ours at the time was dogmatic. (Church porch marriages were the norm in medieval times.)   
There were several changes to Catholic canon law on marriage between 1908 (Ne temere encyclical) and 1980's.
St. Mary, Bacup marriage register sometimes included names of mothers and addresses of parents and witnesses.
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Re: Birth Certificate Questions
« Reply #20 on: Monday 22 February 21 16:27 GMT (UK) »

 Were permits required for all in the UK as well as Ireland? I assume she would have required documentation. Would that have been sufficient to marry rather than a birth certificate?

My earlier reply to this didn't post and I lost it.
People in UK had identity cards. National Registration Act 1939, repealed 1952. They also had ration books. Rationing ended 1954.

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Re: Birth Certificate Questions
« Reply #21 on: Friday 26 February 21 15:59 GMT (UK) »
I had a response from a lady connected to the church. There are notes, but she wants to talk wih the priest before releasing them and they meet today (Friday). She will contact me again next Friday.


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Re: Birth Certificate Questions
« Reply #22 on: Friday 26 February 21 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Oh that is encouraging. Good luck  :)
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Re: Birth Certificate Questions
« Reply #23 on: Friday 26 February 21 21:32 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Heywood and others, without your comments and suggestions I would never have known.

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Re: Birth Certificate Questions
« Reply #24 on: Friday 05 March 21 14:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi All, Just a note to conclude. The lady contacted me again today with a PDF of their notes. Other than being in Latin, it contained much less than the marriage certificate, but confirmed she did not convert to being Catholic. Thanks for your help.

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« Reply #25 on: Friday 05 March 21 15:12 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear, that’s a shame.
I would have thought it should have the same details as the marriage certificate though plus those notes.
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