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Re: History question
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 28 February 21 12:26 GMT (UK) »
Many places in Cumberland didn't have a church, but they would be part of a parish which did have a church; that meant long walks for church services. At that time the parish was a chuch concept, and the creation of civil parishes was a later event.

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Re: History question
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 28 February 21 15:37 GMT (UK) »
In Scotland folk were often married in the manse, marriage was not a sacrament anyhow in the Church of Scotland, (still isn't,) so church weddings were not a big deal back in the day. What was important was getting the banns called in both? parishes and that there were no objections to the marriage.

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In Scotland three forms of irregular marriage were recognized as legally valid:- Marriage constituted per verba de praesenti which required an interchange of consent to be man and wife, privately or informally given,” marriage per verba de futuro subsequente copula, this was constituted by a promise of future marriage without any interchange of consent to be husband and wife, followed by carnal intercourse these two forms lasted until 1939, the third was marriage by cohabitation with habit and repute which remained legally valid until 2006.
In Scotland a regular marriage did not have to take place in a church building, it did not require parental consent, although it did require the proclamation of banns in the parish church and had to be presided over by an authorized celebrant from the established Church.

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Re: History question
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 28 February 21 22:02 GMT (UK) »
Are we not getting off the track a little? 10Ken's question was about a marriage in North Cumberland, not about marriage in another country which, admittedly, does border North Cumberland. The ball is back in 10Ken's court if he wants to give names and locations.
Incidentally there was no parish without a church in North Cumbria in 1750 except for Kirkandrews on Eden and there services were held in the nearby Beaumont parish, about a mile away.
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Re: History question
« Reply #12 on: Monday 01 March 21 11:53 GMT (UK) »

  Hi,
         Nancy Tweddle
         BoB n/k
         location  n/k
        M- Wiiliam Kennedy
 Hope you have more success.
       10KEN


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Re: History question
« Reply #13 on: Monday 01 March 21 12:11 GMT (UK) »
I have only found two Tweddle marriages in the period, neither of them for Nancy, using FreeReg; both were in Alston. No Tweddle baptisms in Alston to match, unfortunately.
The Kennedy surname is Scots - is there a chance they nipped across the border to marry? Might be worth a search on Scotland's People.
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Re: History question
« Reply #14 on: Monday 01 March 21 14:28 GMT (UK) »
Jeezo, a mixed marriage? oor frien "clearly" will have a fit!

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Re: History question
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 02 March 21 19:45 GMT (UK) »
Crivens Skoosh, I didnae realise I was the product of a "mixed" marriage until you pointed it out. Please don't look for bias or prejudice where none exists or is intended.

Joking aside, I can tell 10ken that Tweddle is a name most commonly associated with the parish of Stapleton in North Cumberland. I have gone through the Stapleton marriages from 1740 to 1760 and cannot find a Nancy or Ann Tweddle/Tweedale/Tweedal. The only entry I have come across that is remotely close is:
4 May 1751. David Little and Mary Tweddle, married.

There were quite a lot of Kennedy's in Bewcastle Parish, neighbouring Stapleton, so that may be worthwhile looking at.

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Re: History question
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 03 March 21 08:37 GMT (UK) »
Lockdown fever to blame clearly ;D

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