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A strange question about adoptions in Newcastle
« on: Monday 22 February 21 17:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi all i have been reading up about adoptions and apparently the original birth certificate gets sealed when a child gets adopted and they are issued with a new birth certificate my question is would the original birth still be registered on freebmd  sorry if this isn't a question for here but this has me a bit baffled thank you  ???

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Re: A strange question about adoptions in Newcastle
« Reply #1 on: Monday 22 February 21 18:10 GMT (UK) »
The short answer is no.

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https://www.gov.uk/adoption-records
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Re: A strange question about adoptions in Newcastle
« Reply #2 on: Monday 22 February 21 18:12 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Gadget that's what i thought it should not be on i smell another puzzle coming about  ;D

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Re: A strange question about adoptions in Newcastle
« Reply #3 on: Monday 22 February 21 18:51 GMT (UK) »
If you know the original birth name then yes, it will be on the GRO website, also Free BMD if they have transcribed it.

It tells you on the link given by Gadget to the Government website  that you can order the original certificate. The certificate will be annotated Adopted.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.


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Re: A strange question about adoptions in Newcastle
« Reply #4 on: Monday 22 February 21 18:59 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for clarifying, Jebber. I have a case of  distant cousins being on the register twice. Firstly, under the surname of  their mother's first husband and also under the surname of my mother's uncle, who married the mother later. I don't think it was an adoption just a case of them not  marrying until the first husband had died, so it was a re-registration.

(I misread the question - thought it was a birth cert in the adopted name)
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Re: A strange question about adoptions in Newcastle
« Reply #5 on: Monday 22 February 21 19:44 GMT (UK) »
It’s easy to misread a question Gadget, I do it myself sometimes. I knew the answer to the OP because I ordered two original birth certificates, annotated Adopted, when researching for a friend. :)
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: A strange question about adoptions in Newcastle
« Reply #6 on: Monday 22 February 21 20:44 GMT (UK) »
Life moves in mysterious ways.

After describing my double birth record finds, I went back through my records and then decided to do a search on Ancestry trees. I've found a descendant of my great/grand uncle  :D
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Re: A strange question about adoptions in Newcastle
« Reply #7 on: Monday 22 February 21 20:56 GMT (UK) »
It also depends on the year the child was born. The Adoption Act of 1926 came into force in 1927 and many adoptions before then were informal affairs with no documentation to support it. In theory, children before this time would just have their original certificate of birth although some I know weren’t registered at all.