Martha Russell

[Ladyhawk]

Thanks Monica.

Yes I found the same record on ancestry but couldn't find anything for either David or Jessie after 1911.

Presume this would mean that Martha had died for David to remarry but can't locate a death record .

I’m wondering if perhaps David & Martha Findlay just separated and lived with other people that had also separated for their spouses.

Martha Findlay with Abraham Cooper (don’t know who or if he married )

and

David Findlay with Helen (Anslow) could she be

Ellen Elizabeth Anslow  mmn White Jun 1872 Wolverhampton 6b 522
1881 Piece: 2795 Folio:13 Page Number:20 Dau of Thomas & Mary Ann (White)

and married  Joseph Burke in 1891 Wolverhampton 

Helen Findlay born c 1872 Wolverhampton (1911c)

1901 census Flintshire Wales has an

Ellen Burke born 1872 Wolverhampton husband Joseph & 5 children
Piece: 5212 Folio: 41 Page Number: 7

Have not found the family together in 1911 so as to possibly rule out this Ellen - youngest child died Dec 1901 and eldest child is a lodger 1911 Ellesmere Port 

Is this her death

Ellen E Burke age 82 Jun 1955 West Cheshire Volume: 10a Page: 641

Ellen Elizabeth Burke Burial or Cremation Date:   26 Apr 1955

StephenA6 -  Do you think we have found the correct Martha & David Findlay?
 we were posting at the same time 

[Ladyhawk]

Confused though by Hilda's records .. insofar as it records different fathers for baptism (Abraham) and marriage (David).

Perhaps you would need her 1919 birth certificate to see who was recorded as her father

[StephenA6]

T
StephenA6 -  Do you think we have found the correct Martha & David Findlay?
 we were posting at the same time 

Yes it seems likely. Will do more investigation this evening. Thank you for your help.

Do you know how I get access to English birth / death certificates ? don't think there is a scotlandspeople equivalent

[Ladyhawk]

You can order a PDF copy of the entry which cost £7 from GRO you need to register but it's free to do so

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp#LoginForm

[Ladyhawk]

I forgot to add the John Findlay born c1901 Wales on the census with parents David & Helen his birth appears to have been registered in the surname of BURKE

John BURKE mmn ANSLOW
GRO Reference: 1902  S Quarter in HOLYWELL  Volume 11B  Page 222

same registration district as David Findlay 1905

edit to add - here's the link to the 1901 census for the Ellen Burke I mentioned previously, all children have mmn Anslow (you can search the GRO indexes from the link I posted)

1901 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X918-LCT

[Ladyhawk]

Possible marriage to consider from Cheshire BMD for the Jessie Findlay from 1911c living Ellesmere Port

FINDLAY   Jessie   
SMITH   Thomas   
1911   Ellesmere Port, Christ Church

FreeBMD shows 1911 marriage registration in June qtr. (1911 census night 2nd April)

Do you have exact date of birth of Jessie dau of David & Martha Findlay?
If so, you could try 1939 register or look for a possible Jessie Smith death

Added there's this possible death

Jessie Smith age 87 Birth   26 Feb 1897
Dec 1984 Chester and ellesmere Port Volume:   35 Page:   50

[scotmum]

Newspaper report of a coroner inquest into a work related injury and subsequent death a couple of months or so later, of a David Findlay (67), Ellesmere Port in 1935,  refers to evidence of his identification having been given by an Ellen Findlay,  and that it now appeared she was 'not his wife'. She stated, when recalled, that her proper name was Ellen Burte (wonder if this should have been Burke?). She further stated that she had "lived with him for 31 years". A Jessie Jones (wonder if correct, or if mis-reported surname?), of North Terrace, Sandycroft, daughter of Findlay, confirmed the evidence of his identification.

Another newspaper reporting later on a further hearng on the matter of David's death, also added that Ellen "never saw Findlay's wife, but had heard him talk about her having left him when the children were very young".

[Ladyhawk]

Great finds scotmum

Not sure if these are the same newspaper reports you have mentioned details can be found on F M P sorry I don’t have access to full article

Injury to hand causes death, fingers that were not amputated
The West Cheshire coroner (Mr . J. C. Rate) to-day held an adjourned inquest on David Findlay, aged 67 of Oldfield-road, Ellesmere Port, who died on June 7 in the local hospital
21 June 1935 - Liverpool Echo - Liverpool, Lancashire

Adjourned Inquest at Ellesmere Port The Verdict.
Yesterday (Friday 3, the West Cheshire Coroner (Mr. J C. Bawl, resumed at Ellesmere Port an inquiry into the death of David Findlay age 67 of 10 Oldfield Road, ironworker, who was employed at Mews ........
22 June 1935 - Cheshire Observer - Chester, Cheshire

[scotmum]

Yes, the info is in those two reports.