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Offline Genealiza

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anyone from MEMPHIS that can do a look-up?
« on: Tuesday 23 February 21 15:32 GMT (UK) »
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This OCR of a 7 Oct 1923 obit appears on Ancestry from a Newspaper.com listing.  The newspaper.com listing states it is either pending or no longer available.  Since it hasn't shown up, it is probably no longer available.

I sent to the TN State Archives for the obit.  Despite the Ancestry/ Newspapers.com Obit Index stating that the obit appeared in the 7 Oct 1923 issue of the Commercial Appeal (Memphis), they looked from Oct 1st to Oct 28th in that paper and couldn't find it.

I then tried a RAOGK volunteer and after an initial contact, have not had any communication since Oct.

I would appreciate it if someone from Memphis with access to the Commercial Appeal could scan the actual paper and see if this obit actually exists.

I would love to know the wife's last name and the name of the child.

My corrections are in bold type.

Name:    Harold Barr
Gender:    Male
Death Age:    53
Birth Date:    abt 1870
Residence Place:    Nlemphis  Memphis
Death Date:    Abt 1923
Burial Place:    Elmurrod  Elmwood
Obituary Date:    7 Oct 1923
Obituary Place: Memphis, Tennessee, United States of America
Spouse:    Lena Tintr
Child:    Sarah Kilen
Siblings:   
Chariem It Ilarr Charles R Barr
J C Cook  may be Mrs. J C Cook (Janie S Cook)
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Re: anyone from MEMPHIS that can do a look-up?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 February 21 07:05 GMT (UK) »
Other places that have the paper:

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83001763/holdings/

or start here, scroll down and click on "Libraries that have it". It seems to give different results compared to the other link:
https://www.loc.gov/item/sn86090533/

but I don't understand the information about the dates for the holdings in each library.


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Re: anyone from MEMPHIS that can do a look-up?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 February 21 12:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the input, OOH. 

I was looking at the listing from Chronicling America yesterday, and was confused by all the dates and numbers.  I believe that the Com. Appeal gave all their archives to the University of Memphis, so I was hoping someone with access to their library might be able to help. 
Atkinson, Wearing/Warton Lanc, : Hayhurst,Kendall/Kirkby Lonsdale West,Barrow-in-Furness Lanc: John Thomas of Garthgel, Llanfyllin, and Llangyniew, Wales: James Lloyd of Montgomeryshire and Denbighshire: Rowland Charles and Rowland Wynne of Denbighshire


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Re: anyone from MEMPHIS that can do a look-up?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 28 February 21 19:10 GMT (UK) »
Very frustrating when it is listed but unavailable - still the same response I'm afraid.

There is a RAOGK volunteer for Shelby County - have we tried that one before - can't remember now ?

https://raogk.org/lookups/region/tennessee/

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Re: anyone from MEMPHIS that can do a look-up?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 01 March 21 13:08 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again for your input, Sandra.  Yes, I tried that volunteer.
Atkinson, Wearing/Warton Lanc, : Hayhurst,Kendall/Kirkby Lonsdale West,Barrow-in-Furness Lanc: John Thomas of Garthgel, Llanfyllin, and Llangyniew, Wales: James Lloyd of Montgomeryshire and Denbighshire: Rowland Charles and Rowland Wynne of Denbighshire

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Re: anyone from MEMPHIS that can do a look-up?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 01 March 21 15:29 GMT (UK) »
Was that the one that just didn't reply ? 

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Re: anyone from MEMPHIS that can do a look-up?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 02 March 21 01:34 GMT (UK) »
She responded about a month after my initial contact that she had some issues with a leg.  She said she'd get back with me but I haven't heard back, even with after I sent a reminder note months later.  Surely, there is a Rootschatter in Memphis that can help me with this newspaper.
Atkinson, Wearing/Warton Lanc, : Hayhurst,Kendall/Kirkby Lonsdale West,Barrow-in-Furness Lanc: John Thomas of Garthgel, Llanfyllin, and Llangyniew, Wales: James Lloyd of Montgomeryshire and Denbighshire: Rowland Charles and Rowland Wynne of Denbighshire

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Re: anyone from MEMPHIS that can do a look-up?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 02 March 21 03:32 GMT (UK) »
What about the libraries at the state universities?
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: anyone from MEMPHIS that can do a look-up?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 02 March 21 14:17 GMT (UK) »
Since the archives were donated to U of Memphis, I figured that was my best bet.

I have now relooked at his death certificate.  It states that he was a nonresident, although he was born and lived up until 1920 in Memphis/Jackson, TN.  The D.C. also states that he died of miliary tuberculosis.  He was a painter (probably signs etc, not portrait) by trade.

Maybe he was living in CA, AZ, NM, or TX for his TB and came back home either for a visit with siblings or to be near them at the time of his death.  His wife Lena states on the 1920 census that she was born in Arkansas, but that state isn't any better for TB than the humidity of TN.

They must have had a home in one of those states to which Lena would have returned after his death.  Maybe a search of a remarriage of Lena Barr in one of those states will provide her maiden name.

Thanks for all the input.
Atkinson, Wearing/Warton Lanc, : Hayhurst,Kendall/Kirkby Lonsdale West,Barrow-in-Furness Lanc: John Thomas of Garthgel, Llanfyllin, and Llangyniew, Wales: James Lloyd of Montgomeryshire and Denbighshire: Rowland Charles and Rowland Wynne of Denbighshire