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Offline Jean Price

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Victorian BDM Place Name Abbreviations
« on: Saturday 27 February 21 02:50 GMT (UK) »
Good afternoon all,

I have John Francis born in 1864 to Owen Francis and Mary O'Rourke. The abbreviation is BUNK, but my handy list https://bdmabbreviations.steveparker.id.au/ does not have it. Can anyone help please.

Jean
Fawcett, Down; Gibson, Ayrshire and Tasmania; James, Cornwall and Victoria Aus; Cox, Northamptonshire, Thomas, Gloucestershire; Albury, Berkshire,

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Re: Victorian BDM Place Name Abbreviations
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 27 February 21 02:56 GMT (UK) »
somewhere near Ballarat?
 Bunkers Hill near Ballarat might be a good fit.
I notice there are other children born  to this couple in Ballarat and Sago Hill, near Ballarat.
Was the father a miner?
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Victorian BDM Place Name Abbreviations
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 27 February 21 03:26 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Neale,

I knew I was being lazy, and that i should check up on other children. John Francis married one of my family and died 6 days later - there were no children to this marriage - so I have not gone any further.
If the father was a miner he must have made some money because there is a magnificent headstone for the family in Whangaratta.

Jean
Fawcett, Down; Gibson, Ayrshire and Tasmania; James, Cornwall and Victoria Aus; Cox, Northamptonshire, Thomas, Gloucestershire; Albury, Berkshire,

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Re: Victorian BDM Place Name Abbreviations
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 27 February 21 07:31 GMT (UK) »
Nothing shows on this site either:
https://fanningfamilyhistory.com/wp-content/uploads/eBook-Placenames-Abbreviations-13-June-2011.pdf

Both Steve Parker and the fanning history site show:

Burk =    Burkes Flat   

The letters 'n' and 'r' are so alike perhaps it was poorly transcribed?  :-\

Just a thought!

Burkes Flat seems to be (very) roughly halfway between Bendigo and St Arnaud.

Judith
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Re: Victorian BDM Place Name Abbreviations
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 27 February 21 07:39 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry's Australian Birth Index says Buninyong:

1864 #19597
John Francis
Place: Buninyong,
Parents: Owen Francis, Mary Orourke

Judith
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: Victorian BDM Place Name Abbreviations
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 27 February 21 07:58 GMT (UK) »
I would suggest it is Bunkers Hill.
Owen FRANCIS mentioned in this newspaper item in 1863 applying for vacant ground
 at Bunkers Hill.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article72511558

Edit:  My CD resource shows event was at BUNK.
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Re: Victorian BDM Place Name Abbreviations
« Reply #6 on: Monday 01 March 21 03:14 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone for your input.

However I have to admit that I am still puzzled.

I think I will throw a dart

Regards
Jean
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Re: Victorian BDM Place Name Abbreviations
« Reply #7 on: Monday 01 March 21 04:35 GMT (UK) »
Doesn't help with finding John's birth but his father's obituaries are interesting - you probably have them already. It looks as though Owen and Mary Ann were in the Ballarat area for the births of most of their children so I'd think Bunkers Hill, as already mentioned, is probably John's birth-place.
The image of John's birth registration MAY have better information if you wished to purchase it.

Father's obits:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/199682853
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/10599407
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/100593494/10828321

 I note that Owen's birthplace is given as Manchester in this obit while it's shown as Llechylched, Anglesey, Wales in some of the on-line trees which probably need checking.

Judith
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: Victorian BDM Place Name Abbreviations
« Reply #8 on: Monday 01 March 21 06:21 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Judb

Interesting to see that the reports say he made a lot of money - I'm sure you can tell from a headstone how much money a family has - and the Francis one is a beauty

Jean
Fawcett, Down; Gibson, Ayrshire and Tasmania; James, Cornwall and Victoria Aus; Cox, Northamptonshire, Thomas, Gloucestershire; Albury, Berkshire,