Turner coat of arms

[allans]

In 1785 a coat of arms was awarded to Rev. Richard Turner, Clerk. see https://books.google.co.uk/books/download/Miscellanea_Genealogica_Et_Heraldica.pdf?id=Ztjtx2j68AsC&output=pdf&sig=ACfU3U07vEy-rZQwT3xZU8kRWQBfYmtxfQ pdf page 174, book page 157.
The text states 'his Family have used for Arms Ermine on a Cross voided four Mill-rinds’ and he wanted his own variation.
Can anyone help identify who the original arms were awarded to please.

[KGarrad]

Burkes General Armoury says:

Turner (co. Derby, Visit 1634)  Ermines on a cross quarter pierced ar. four fers-de-moline sa. a fleur-de-lys for difference.

Turner (Bluntshall, co Essex) Ermines on a cross quarter voided ar. four fers-de-moline sa.

Turner (Parenden, co Essex) Ermines on a cross quarter voided ar. four fers-de-moline sa.

Turner (Downhathley House, co. Gloucester)  Ermines on a cross quarter pierced ar. four fers-de-moline sa.

Turner (cos Huntingdon & Suffolk)  Ermines on a cross sa. quarter pierced of the field four fers-de-moline sa. a fleur-de-lys for difference.

Turner (Saultry, co. Huntingdon) same arms

etc., etc.  52 entries for Turner; more for Turnor

Burkes should be viewable on Google Books.

[allans]

Thanks. None of the entries match EXACTLY - in the 1884 but in the 1851 there is one - Turner of Bluntshall, Essex. Interestingly the award to Richard Turner is not in the 1851 but is included in the 1884 edition.

When the application was made, and granted on 26 July 1785, for a variation I imagine the applicant, Rev Richard Turner, would have to have supplied a genealogy to prove entitlement. Would this application and genealogy by published anywhere? Like the visitations perhaps? or would I have to apply to the college of arms to see the associated archive?

[KGarrad]

The original application would be with the College of Arms.
But getting info isn't cheap

https://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/
and
https://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/services/proving-a-right-to-arms

[allans]

Thanks - you have confirmed my own thoughts