James Irvine WW1 1921

[aghadowey]

I couldn't see it ether, gaffy

[trevalyn]

Bit puzzled by this. The death notice as described in my earlier post was provided by Belfast Central Library.

[aghadowey]

Bit puzzled by this. The death notice as described in my earlier post was provided by Belfast Central Library.

See gaffy's possible explanation in reply #8

[gaffy]

Sorry, I've taken this topic off track a bit, but I was puzzled as to why I couldn't see the death notice that you could see.  The edition of Belfast Telegraph usually appears in the front page masthead, over to the right hand side.  Your Belfast Central Library edition being a later one than my British Newspaper Archive edition is the only reason for this disparity that I can think of for now.

BTW, I checked for anything that might clarify the burial location in terms of other newspaper death notices in the surrounding days, or an 'in memoriam' on the first anniversary, but no dice.

[gaffy]

It is believed that his parents were Robert and Elizabeth Jane Irvine and that the family were Church of Ireland.

Is this his father in 1911 census?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Clifton/Louisa_Street/146009/

Eliza Jane was his step-mother. Married 16 years....in 1894.
Robert Irvine (widower) married Eliza Jane Hanna.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10576/5852867.pdf

KG

Trevalyn, what is your response to Kiltaglassan?  For I may have something relevant to that post.

[trevalyn]

Hi Gaffy. Yes, that's definitely James' father and step-mother in Louisa St. in 1911. In 1901, James and his younger sister (also Eliza Jane) were with Hanna relatives in Blaney St.
Now, a new angle. James was born in Co Down (per 1901 Census). On 4 July 1884 a Robert Irvine married a Rachel Scott from Lower Ballykine in 1st Ballynahinch Presbyterian Church. On 4 Dec 1886 a son James was born at Lisburn St, Ballynahinch. His sister, four years younger, was born in Belfast.
I have not yet found a death record for Rachel (Scott) Irvine but she might well be buried in her home area. And possibly James as well?

[rathmore]

death mention on Civil records church records he was a Army Pensioner

http://www.irishgenealogy.ie

[scotmum]

Some other mentions of 'Glebe churchyard' in papers of timescale, refer to Anahilt/Annahilt.

Only Irvine grave there at Find a Grave is https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/179146000/irvine

So possibly belonging to this family group:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Annahilt/Ballykeel_Lougherne/1237442/

[gaffy]

Hi Gaffy. Yes, that's definitely James' father and step-mother in Louisa St. in 1911. In 1901, James and his younger sister (also Eliza Jane) were with Hanna relatives in Blaney St...

I see, the reason I asked is that I noticed an 'in memoriam' notice placed by grandparents William & Eliza Hanna of 70 Upper Charleville Street for a Lizzie Irvine who died on 10 February 1907 - she was was buried in the 'Glebe Churchyard' (the notice was in the Belfast Telegraph of 10 February 1909).

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05541/4553993.pdf

I'm assuming that this was her birth:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02477/1919570.pdf