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Re: John Phillips brn 1852 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 04 March 21 07:59 GMT (UK) »
Death of John Day (presumably father of Margaret Day Phillips)
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-273-4-3-074

Perhaps n.o.k Ďbrother Johní was an error
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Re: John Phillips brn 1852 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 04 March 21 08:48 GMT (UK) »
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Buttevant is in the county of Cork, Templemore is not.

The depot of the 43rd moved to Templemore later in 1852 and was there at the end of the year. Presumably its return of regimental births for the year was made from there.
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Re: John Phillips brn 1852 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 04 March 21 09:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks ShaunJ & heywood, this John Phillips is very elusive, he is with his family, wife Emma brn North Cray Kent & 3 children in Hulme Manchester in the 1891 census and then disappears from view, I cannot find any definite record for him & his wife Emma after that time. The children end up with their grandmothers 2nd husband a Thomas Hamer.
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Re: John Phillips brn 1852 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #21 on: Friday 05 March 21 14:37 GMT (UK) »
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in the family bible his birth date in 20th May 1852

There was a John Phillips with that birthdate working for the Great Western Railway at Llanelly Station in 1875. Occupation "steam crane".
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Re: John Phillips brn 1852 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #22 on: Friday 05 March 21 17:05 GMT (UK) »
Thanks ShaunJ, I canít see that this John can be the same as the John born in Cork, is there any record of his birthplace, Iíve looked on the 1871 census but nothing found.
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Re: John Phillips brn 1852 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #23 on: Friday 05 March 21 17:08 GMT (UK) »
No more information on the Llanelly man. Probably just coincidence. It certainly can't be the John Phillips born in Cork who was in the 8th Hussars.
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Re: John Phillips brn 1852 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #24 on: Friday 05 March 21 17:26 GMT (UK) »
Thanks ShaunJ & heywood, this John Phillips is very elusive, he is with his family, wife Emma brn North Cray Kent & 3 children in Hulme Manchester in the 1891 census and then disappears from view, I cannot find any definite record for him & his wife Emma after that time. The children end up with their grandmothers 2nd husband a Thomas Hamer.
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Have you checked this death:
John Phillips 42 yrs
September quarter 1894 Chorlton 8c pg 450
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Re: John Phillips brn 1852 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #25 on: Friday 05 March 21 17:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks heywood, I have settled on this as his death, but not ordered certificate yet, the date would fit in as I cannot find him in the 1901 census, but heís in the 1891 census with Emma his wife and the children. However I cannot find Emma Phillips in the 1901 census anywhere.
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