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Re: John Phillips brn 1852 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 03 March 21 12:57 GMT (UK) »
Army file for John Phillips born Buttevant 1852, on FindMyPast: https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FWO97%2F1749%2F010%2F001&parentid=GBM%2FWO97%2F1749%2F345360

Curiously it names his next of kin as "Brother John".

Attested May/June 1866 aged 14 and one month. Discharged in 1882
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Re: John Phillips brn 1852 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 03 March 21 13:02 GMT (UK) »
Compare signatures 1866 (aged 14) and 1882
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Re: John Phillips brn 1852 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 03 March 21 14:25 GMT (UK) »
The depot company of 43rd Regiment was stationed at Buttevant in May 1852.
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Re: John Phillips brn 1852 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 03 March 21 14:29 GMT (UK) »
Looks good, Shaun :)
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Re: John Phillips brn 1852 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 03 March 21 15:29 GMT (UK) »
Just to add that the bulk of the 43rd Regiment was in South Africa in 1852 so the John Phillips birth reported by the regiment in Ireland must have been to a soldier of the depot company, and the depot company was at Buttevant in May of that year.
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Re: John Phillips brn 1852 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 03 March 21 19:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi Everybody
Thanks again for your research, I think the John brn Buttevant is my John, Buttevant is in the county of Cork, Templemore is not. He was definitely born in Cork. The attested date in 1866 works perfect for the Buttevant John also, not able to access the findmypast file, but donít understand how his next of kin can have the same first name. The signatures are very similar Shaunj.
So it looks like Johnís father William was in the 43rd regiment and John possibly joined the 8th Hussars in 1866 at 14 years of age, do we know where he enlisted.
Thanks

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Re: John Phillips brn 1852 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 03 March 21 19:38 GMT (UK) »
JP enlisted in the 8th Hussars at Dublin. It's consistent with attendance at the Royal Hibernian Military School.
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Re: John Phillips brn 1852 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 03 March 21 22:42 GMT (UK) »
Thanks ShaunJ, I have subscribed to Ancestry, but not findmypast, Iíll keep digging
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Re: John Phillips brn 1852 Cork, Ireland
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 03 March 21 23:32 GMT (UK) »
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donít understand how his next of kin can have the same first name.

Possibly a step-brother - did his widowed mother marry someone who already had a son John perhaps.
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