Greenwood / Hill Child and immigration puzzle

[jeffgreenwood]

Hello, this is my first post. I have been stumped for a couple weeks trying to find the answer to this puzzle about my great great grandfathers mother and father situation.
Here's what I want to know:
Who is my GGGrandfather Edgar Percival Greenwood's, aka "Percy", father? and what happened to him?

Here's what I think I know:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LZFP-PJ3

I am pretty sure this is his mother, from Draft Records and Christening records.

It looks like she was born in Northamptonshire England in 1866. I can't find marriage or immigration records to match (tried some military, death, and prison stuff but didn't get anywhere), but she shows up a widow in the USA 1920 census with her son Edgar my GGGrandfather a widow. I can't find much in the way of verifying that Edgars father is Frederick (but it looks good as my dad and grandfathers names are both Frederick)

My dad, and Auntie and the rest of the family have nothing to add either...

I've been hoping to use a family history center nearby but can't get a hold of any of them around me on Los Angeles CA.

Advice and help is appreciated in advance,
Thanks,
Jeff

[shellyesq]

There's a Frederick Greenwood who died in 1892 in Philadelphia.  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKQ5-79D  There is also one who died in 1914 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JXZS-P7X  Maybe those are possibilities?

If you can find Edgar & his mother in 1900 or 1910 census, that might narrow down the time frame.

There's an Edgar Greenwood of the right age in the 1900 census in Hempstead, New York as a boarder at the Hines Institute.  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSJD-2LY  I'm not sure what that was, but if his father had died, his mother might have needed to send him somewhere so she could work.

[shellyesq]

Clara & Edgar appear to be in the 1915 New Jersey state census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV93-QVS4

[shellyesq]

These entries were in Philadelphia city directories.

1892
Greenwood, Clara, dry goods, 2608 Brown
Greenwood, Frederick, sorter, home 2608 Brown
(this address matches the address on the 1892 Frederick Greenwood death record)

1893 & 1894
Greenwood, Clara, dry goods, 2519 Brown

1895
Greenwood, Clara, widow of Fredk, home 131 Ashmead, Germantown

[jeffgreenwood]

Thank you sooo much! They are definitely possibilities. I'll dive in to view them in a couple hours,
Thank you Thank you thank you!

[*Sandra*]

There's a Frederick Greenwood who died in 1892 in Philadelphia.  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKQ5-79D  There is also one who died in 1914 -

FIND A GRAVE matches the death record Shelly found above.

Fred Greenwood

Mount Moriah Cemetery Philadelphia, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/201291491/fred-greenwood

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

North America, Family Histories - Frederick Walton Greenwood -  Birth Date 23 Oct 1855 Baildon, England Death Date 9 Mar 1892 - Death Place Philadelphia, PA
Wool sorter - Father James Greenwood - Mother Alice Pickard

Sandra

[mckha489]

Why have you picked that particular Clara when in the 1915 census she gives a birth of July 1865?

(Of course they often got it wrong back then, so you may well be right, I just wondered what your other evidence was)

[*Sandra*]

 UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists
Clara Greenwood - 1865 - aged 28 years - Edgar - child aged 4 years.
Departure Date:   27 Sep 1893 Liverpool, England - Destination Port New York.
Ship Name Majestic.

Sandra