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Re: Searching parents of Albert Henry Fuller born Surrey Hills Sydney abt 1893
« Reply #27 on: Friday 05 March 21 04:59 GMT (UK) »
There had been a little child too.

FULLER Lorrie E
37921/1912
Parents Albert H & Bertha G
SYDNEY

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Re: Searching parents of Albert Henry Fuller born Surrey Hills Sydney abt 1893
« Reply #28 on: Friday 05 March 21 05:37 GMT (UK) »
Iíve seen his offence for wife desertion and the following year he joins the services where his records bequeath everything to Amy Chapman his foster mother. What has me really stumped now is the difference in his signatures and Helen Davis being recorded on both marriage certificates as his mother?
Was he given the wrong name for his mother and could it be Ada?
Thankyou all so much for some great leads I will keep hunting .

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Re: Searching parents of Albert Henry Fuller born Surrey Hills Sydney abt 1893
« Reply #29 on: Friday 05 March 21 06:44 GMT (UK) »
https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/

Charles Wadsworth Chapman aged 26, a sharebroker first married in Tasmania to Anne Marie Jones, aged 22 in 1883.
She died of typhoid
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/9121197
 
In 1888 he married as a widower, accountant,  to Amy Grace Chapman, both of full age. Witnessed by Ethel E Chapman and Vincent Tregear.

There were children born in Tasmania.

The couple were still in Tasmania in 1893 when this child was born
M. Chapman
Birth Dat 17 Nov 1893
Birth Place   Tasmania
Registration Year1893
Registration PlaceHobart, Tasmania, Australia
Father Charles Wadswor Chapman
Mother Amy Grace Chapman
Registration 1148

In 1897, they lived in Redfern.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/251899211

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PS I am not as convinced as some that the a different hand wrote the 2 signatures.  (One from his AIF papers record and one from his first marriage)
Handwriting does change over years and I think a number of the letters contained have strong similarities to each other

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Re: Searching parents of Albert Henry Fuller born Surrey Hills Sydney abt 1893
« Reply #30 on: Friday 05 March 21 06:54 GMT (UK) »
Iíve seen his offence for wife desertion and the following year he joins the services where his records bequeath everything to Amy Chapman his foster mother. What has me really stumped now is the difference in his signatures and Helen Davis being recorded on both marriage certificates as his mother?
Was he given the wrong name for his mother and could it be Ada?
Thankyou all so much for some great leads I will keep hunting .

I see no recorded births to Edward FULLER and Ada (SHIRVINGTON)

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Re: Searching parents of Albert Henry Fuller born Surrey Hills Sydney abt 1893
« Reply #31 on: Friday 05 March 21 08:23 GMT (UK) »


Marriage, 1929 NSW.....what occupation do you see for Albert Henry FULLER?

How does he name his parents  and father's occupation?

What names do you see for witnesses?

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Re: Searching parents of Albert Henry Fuller born Surrey Hills Sydney abt 1893
« Reply #32 on: Friday 05 March 21 08:54 GMT (UK) »
Married at st mathews Bondi 27 th April 1929
Occupation electrical engineeer

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Re: Searching parents of Albert Henry Fuller born Surrey Hills Sydney abt 1893
« Reply #33 on: Friday 05 March 21 10:28 GMT (UK) »
Iíve seen his offence for wife desertion and the following year he joins the services where his records bequeath everything to Amy Chapman his foster mother. What has me really stumped now is the difference in his signatures and Helen Davis being recorded on both marriage certificates as his mother?
Was he given the wrong name for his mother and could it be Ada?
Thankyou all so much for some great leads I will keep hunting .

The desertion was 1913.  The enlistment was several years after that.

...  25 September 1913 Charged with wife desertion.

Enlisted 28 Feb 1917.

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Re: Searching parents of Albert Henry Fuller born Surrey Hills Sydney abt 1893
« Reply #34 on: Friday 05 March 21 21:24 GMT (UK) »
Re Surry Hills circa 1893

City of Sydney, Ward map using  a 20th century map.
http://photosau.com.au/cosrates/scripts/display.asp?Term=Ward_boundaries_1870-1902&City+Boundarys+and+Wards=Ward_boundaries_1870-1902

Surry Hills clearly marked :  Elizabeth St south of Liverpool St,   Oxford St, east of intersection of Elizabeth and Liverpool streets and only as far east as Dowling St,  Dowling Street south only as far as its intersection with Flinders St, then the boundary goes east through back yards of properties to  Greens Road, then along the southern boundary of Victoria Barracks including ALL of the Moore Park precinct noting the south-eastern boundary at Anzac Parade and Alison Road, and then back to South Dowling Street, to Cleveland Street and back to Elizabeth St. 

City of Sydney, Assessment Books (Rates Books, often noting the name of the tenant and not just the name of the owner/landlord).     So Surry Hills is in the COOK Ward. 
https://archives.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/nodes/view/1742800    There are assessment books for 1891 and 1896 that may be relevant, and a search option tooÖ

The City of Sydney Archives also has Sands Directories. 
https://archives.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/nodes/view/495003  so the following link should give you 1894 editions.  Ė The Goal photo has Albertís Date of Birth as 30 April 1893, at Surry Hills.  The 1894 editionís closing date for publication was October 1893. 

https://archives.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/nodes/view/1898965?keywords=&type=all
Parts 6, 7, 8, 9 are Alphabetical by surname.   FULLER as a surname would be in part 6, page 57..  https://archives.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/nodes/view/1900092

I have not found Edward FULLER, Surry Hills NSW c 1893.  Not sure why a Sawyer would be Surry Hills based in the 1890s.  I would expect to find Sawyers in regional NSW, not in the CBD of Sydney. 

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Re: Searching parents of Albert Henry Fuller born Surrey Hills Sydney abt 1893
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 06 March 21 00:21 GMT (UK) »

NSW BDM birth
531/1901    CHAPMAN Nellie M           parents Charles W / Amy G   @  Sydney
1090/1902  CHAPMAN Cuthbert E       parents Charles W / Amy G

NSW BDM death
10700/1922 CHAPMAN Brighta             parents  Charles W / Amy G     @  Ashfield
10185/1975 CHAPMAN Cuthbert Eynon  parents  Charles  Wadsworth / Amy Grace
10185/1975 CHAPMAN Thomas             parents  Charles  Wadsworth / Amy Grace
7218/1983  CHAPMAN Malcolm Joseph   parents  Charles  Wadsworth / Amy Grace

NAA WW1 enlistmant
CHAPMAN Malcolm Joseph : SERN 18624 : POB Glenorchy TAS : POE Sydney NSW 
NOK F CHAPMAN Charles Wadsworth
(26y 10m  at Mar 1917)

CHAPMAN Arthur Bingham : SERN 834 : POB Hobart TAS : POE Liverpool NSW 
NOK M CHAPMAN Amy Grace
( 21 y 4m  at Mar 1915)

SMH 14 Aug 1922  p8
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/16018866?
CHAPMAN.óAugust 12, at her residence, 42 Wattle-st, Haberfield, Brighta, beloved daughter of Amy Grace and Charles Wadsworth CHAPMAN, aged 29 years.