John Joseph Allen b 11 Jan 1864 St Pancras London

[Cockneyrebel]

The above was the son of John Thomas Allen (1840-1894) and Rebecca Roberts or Roberta Rosser (b 1845); he was baptised 14 Feb 1864 Bloomsbury St George and emigrated  Sept 1875 to the USA and was naturalised 24 Oct 1892 witness John S Atcheson at New York, Kings.
After that, I can find no records for him?
Cr

[softly softly]

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emigrated  Sept 1875 to the USA and was naturalised 24 Oct 1892 witness John S Atcheson at New York, Kings.

How comes he appears on 1881 census with parents rg11 184 5 4

John

[Cockneyrebel]

I don't know maybe he fibbed about his emigration year?
Cr

[PaulineJ]

Did you just pick the years out of a hat, or is there a url with the record?

The naturalisation record records only a middle initial , is in 2 minds about his DOB , and you don't state the UK birth date, only a baptism.

[Cockneyrebel]

Pauline, if you read the topic subject you'll see when he was b(orn) 11/1/1864
Cr

[PaulineJ]

Pauline, if you read the topic subject you'll see when he was b(orn) 11/1/1864
Cr

You fail to give a source for that birthdate

[Cockneyrebel]

The dob came from the baptism record from the London Metropolitan Archives which can be seen on Ancestry and coincides with the dob shown on his Naturalisation.
Cr

[PaulineJ]

The dob came from the baptism record from the London Metropolitan Archives which can be seen on Ancestry and coincides with the dob shown on his Naturalisation.
Cr

Ancestry gives two versions of birthdate on naturalisation,  and just an initial for the middle name.
In the absence of any further evidence AND doubts about the 1875 immigration,  given he's in England  1881, I think its more likely a coincidence.

[shellyesq]

Looking at the actual image of the naturalization record, the date of birth looks like 11 Jan. 1864 to me, although the second 1 does look a bit smaller. It does say he was living at 17 & 19 Park Row, in case that helps.