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Help please with Baptism in Giggleswick about 1735
« on: Monday 08 March 21 19:00 GMT (UK) »
Please can anyone help?

I know that Agnes Hardy married Robert Titterington in Clapham, Yorkshire in 1757, and according to her Burial record, she was born about 1735.

As far as I can see, Hardy is not a name that features commonly in Clapham, but I have noticed that there are Hardy events in Giggleswick, so I wonder if she was born there.
So, please, can anyone have a look at the Parish Register to see if this is the case? I'd be very grateful for any help,

Many thanks,
Kit

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Re: Help please with Baptism in Giggleswick about 1735
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 March 21 10:46 GMT (UK) »
I cannot find an Agnes Hardy born in England but there are two born in Scotland?


HARDY   AGNES   DAVID HARDY/ISABEL GRAY FR643 (FR643)   F   18/05/1735   Liberton
Above married there in 1760

I know this is a bit of a leap but as Agnes had two daughters named Margaret (Maybe the first died) the name seems important?

HARDY   AGNES   ANDREW HARDY/MARGART ROBERTSON    F   24/04/1737   Garvald, East Lothian

Abode Snawden Notes on freereg: Father deceased. Wit Thomas HARDY he taking on him the bows and engadgments for his deceased brother & Robert ROBERTSON and Robert HENDERSON.

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Re: Help please with Baptism in Giggleswick about 1735
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 March 21 12:34 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much indeed for that Colin.

I'm a little concerned that your Scottish Agneses are so far from Clapham - as you know, in those days, most people tended to stay in their own or adjascent parishes, so at the moment, I'm putting them in the "possibles tray"!
I really think that "my" Agnes was probably born nearer to Clapham, but then, I'm not ruling anything out!

Thanks again for your help,
Kit


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Re: Help please with Baptism in Giggleswick about 1735
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 March 21 14:06 GMT (UK) »
I think in certain circumstances there was a lot more movement in that time.

I had an ancestor born in Coventry in 1780, he was in the army, posted to East Lothian, left the army whilst there married an Agnes, had 4 children there, left one behind before moving back to Coventry with his wife and 3 of his children then had more in Coventry. Through my research I traced an ancestor from the one that remained in Scotland, still living in the same area today.

Andrew Hady & Margaret Robertson had 4 other children in the same place from 1725. After Andrew died maybe your Agnes went to live relatives?

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Re: Help please with Baptism in Giggleswick about 1735
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 March 21 15:23 GMT (UK) »
The baptisms I mentioned at Garvald Parish Church  happen to be at freereg.

William HARDY   Baptism   10 Jan 1725   East Lothian   Wit: William BURNSYD

Adam HARDY   Baptism   30 Jul 1727   East Lothian   wit: William HAY and Thomas HARDY.

Andrew HARDY   Baptism   06 Sep 1730   East Lothian   wit: Thomas HARDY and James HAY.

Shuzan HARDY   Baptism   07 Jul 1734   East Lothian   wit: William SANDERSON and Thomas HARDY

Agnes HARDY   Baptism   24 Apr 1737   East Lothian   


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Re: Help please with Baptism in Giggleswick about 1735
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 March 21 17:05 GMT (UK) »
I have just found this marriage, I wonder if this is the eldest brother of Agnes.

Marriage   29 Jan 1745   Yorkshire, West Riding   Thornton in Lonsdale : St Oswald
Jane MARSHAL to William HARDY both of the pariah of Clapham, abode for both Sunny Bank

The only other records I could find are below. There may be more on Ancestry?

Isabell HARDIE   Baptism   18 Jun 1749   Yorkshire, West Riding   Giggleswick : St Alkelda

Isabel HARDY   Baptism   19 May 1757   Yorkshire, West Riding   Giggleswick : St Alkelda

Father William abode Settle on both.

William HARDY   Burial   28 Sep 1758   Yorkshire, West Riding   Giggleswick
Son of William of Settle


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Re: Help please with Baptism in Giggleswick about 1735
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 March 21 21:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi Colin,
Thank you very much for your last posts, especially the detail re the Giggleswick Baptisms. That's why I wondered if Agnes was born in Giggleswick.

I absolutely take on board what you are saying about moving about in those days.

Now, I've been researching and pondering the William Hardy + Jane Marshal marriage for a few weeks now - like you I was wondering if he might be Agnes' older brother.
I've seen their MC and their Marriage Bond - the latter states that William Hardy was 26, therefore born about 1718, and Jane Marshal was aged 21 and a Spinster BUT THAT BOTH WERE FROM SUNNY BANK IN THE PARISH OF BENTHAM, NOT CLAPHAM!
Also, is this William:
Ingleton Burials
Isabel d  of William Hardy buried 6/12/1762
William Hardy Housholder buried 7/2/1763
Elizabeth Hardy widow buried 1/2/1768

Also, the William Hardy Housholder buried 7/2/1763 Ingleton left a Will - in it, he mentions wife Elizabeth (Executrix), eldest son Edward, sons Thomas, John, Joseph + William and daughter Elizabeth Cumming

So I'm still pondering about this one!

But thanks very much for your help,
Kit

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Re: Help please with Baptism in Giggleswick about 1735
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 10 March 21 11:19 GMT (UK) »
For Giggleswick and other places in that area, have you seen the North Craven Heritage Trust - http://www.northcravenheritage.org.uk/EVENTS/F/NCHT/home.html

There's a vast amount of information there, including document transcriptions and indexes etc. Look particularly at the items under "archives" in the top menu.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Help please with Baptism in Giggleswick about 1735
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 10 March 21 12:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kit,
I think you are correct, I found the following on the brothers of Agnes born East Lothian

WILLIAM HARDIE   married   ELISABETH PORTEOUS   22/05/1752   Whittingehame

Son ANDREW born there 1753 & WILLIAM born 1755 Garvald

ADAM HARDY   Married    ALASON WALKER   01/06/1760   Haddington

Daughter BEATRIX born there 1769

Other brother Andrew probably married elsewhere in Scotland too may choices . No clear trace of Shuzan.


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