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William Slade, born around 1831 in New York
« on: Friday 12 March 21 15:24 GMT (UK) »

I have a DNA match to several people who descend form William Slade, born around 1831 in New York. I know that my 5x great aunt, Frances Potter, married Thomas Slade in Chester, Cheshire, England in 1830.

This would suggest William is the son of Thomas and Frances. However, I need documentation to prove this and can't find the paper link. Census records claim William was born on the 10th of May 1831 in New York, USA, but Thomas and Frances baptised their daughter Hannah Slade in England in 1832.

Could he simple be mistaken about his place of birth and have thought he was born in New York? The census records I have found so far for his parents are for 1861 and beyond in Ontario, Canada, whilst the earliest record I have of William is marrying Phoebe Jane Goff in Indiana in 1868.

Can anyone help me to prove this connection please? I don't have much experience with US or Canadian genealogy.
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Re: William Slade, born around 1831 in New York
« Reply #1 on: Friday 12 March 21 17:02 GMT (UK) »
His obit indicates he came to Indiania from Canada. He could have been born in New York and then the family moved to Canada.

 The Times
Munster, Indiana
17 Jun 1910, Fri  •  Page 1

Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/73279174/william-slade-death-1910/

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Another note- The 1900/1910 census has the year of birth as 1831, but the earlier censuses 1870/1880 have his birth year as 1841?

1870 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXF7-BH2

1880 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MH9J-CGT

1900 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKP6-PLZ

1910 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM12-35G

Perhaps he was born in 1841 not 1831. Him being 29 and Phoebe being 19 in the 1870 census seems more realistic than him being 39 and Phoebe 19.

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Re: William Slade, born around 1831 in New York
« Reply #2 on: Friday 12 March 21 17:33 GMT (UK) »
His obit indicates he came to Indiania from Canada. He could have been born in New York and then the family moved to Canada.

 The Times
Munster, Indiana
17 Jun 1910, Fri  •  Page 1

Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/73279174/william-slade-death-1910/

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Another note- The 1900/1910 census has the year of birth as 1831, but the earlier censuses 1870/1880 have his birth year as 1841?

1870 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXF7-BH2

1880 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MH9J-CGT

1900 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKP6-PLZ

1910 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM12-35G

Perhaps he was born in 1841 not 1831. Him being 29 and Phoebe being 19 in the 1870 census seems more realistic than him being 39 and Phoebe 19.

I think you might be right about the ages, seems 1841 would be about right when they married in 1868 as well. The obituary page is very interesting, listing him as of French-Canadian descent. Both of his parents were from England. However, he was 1/8 black so perhaps that was how he explained his complexion.
North West, North Wales and Isle of Man:

Ward, Campbell, Cowin, Cowell, Parry, Fryer, Davies, Hughes, Briscoe, Jones, Spencer, Brownbill, Crowfoot, Nield, Randles, Youde

Gozo, Malta:

Apap / De Apapis, Camilleri, Grech, Muscat, Micallef, Custo, De Nasi

Angus, Scotland:

Ormond, Salmond, Cook, MacDonald

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Re: William Slade, born around 1831 in New York
« Reply #3 on: Friday 12 March 21 17:38 GMT (UK) »
His obit indicates he came to Indiania from Canada. He could have been born in New York and then the family moved to Canada.

 The Times
Munster, Indiana
17 Jun 1910, Fri  •  Page 1

Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/73279174/william-slade-death-1910/

=========

Another note- The 1900/1910 census has the year of birth as 1831, but the earlier censuses 1870/1880 have his birth year as 1841?

1870 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXF7-BH2

1880 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MH9J-CGT

1900 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKP6-PLZ

1910 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM12-35G

Perhaps he was born in 1841 not 1831. Him being 29 and Phoebe being 19 in the 1870 census seems more realistic than him being 39 and Phoebe 19.

Can you find an 1840 census for Thomas and Frances Slade in New York? Would really help fill in some blanks.
North West, North Wales and Isle of Man:

Ward, Campbell, Cowin, Cowell, Parry, Fryer, Davies, Hughes, Briscoe, Jones, Spencer, Brownbill, Crowfoot, Nield, Randles, Youde

Gozo, Malta:

Apap / De Apapis, Camilleri, Grech, Muscat, Micallef, Custo, De Nasi

Angus, Scotland:

Ormond, Salmond, Cook, MacDonald


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Re: William Slade, born around 1831 in New York
« Reply #4 on: Friday 12 March 21 18:43 GMT (UK) »

Could he simply be mistaken about his place of birth and have thought he was born in New York? The census records I have found so far for his parents are for 1861 and beyond in Ontario, Canada, whilst the earliest record I have of William is marrying Phoebe Jane Goff in Indiana in 1868.


Here are Thomas & Frances in the 1861 census for Toronto, Peel, Ontario, Canada

1861 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQW8-9CZ

Image-Lines 9-14: https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1861&op=&img&id=4391950_00428

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Here is the family in the 1851 census for Toronto, Peel, Ontario, Canada. Both Family Search and the Canada Archives have mis-transcribed the last name. They both have it as "Hade". There is a William listed as age 9. This would fit William Slade being born 1841/1842.

1851 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWTX-TV9

Image-Lines 35-44: https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1851&op=&img&id=e002365986

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Re: William Slade, born around 1831 in New York
« Reply #5 on: Friday 12 March 21 18:45 GMT (UK) »
The 1840 census can be searched for free here - https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1786457  It only had the head of household listed with other people listed by gender, age, & race.