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Winifred Emma Knell
« on: Friday 12 March 21 15:58 GMT (UK) »
I have all info about her date of birth 08.09.1895 born in Birchington Kent, parents Frederick and Ada. living with her parents in 1901, with her grandmother Swan in 1911, and 1939 in Finchley,
on the 1939 her name is crossed out and Pollard is written
I have not found any marriage to a Pollard nor date of death is this name.
A second pair of eyes would be much appreciated please.
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Re: Winifred Emma Knell
« Reply #1 on: Friday 12 March 21 17:00 GMT (UK) »
This death seems to be registered under both surnames:

Winifred Pollard
Age 88
birth yr 1895
Date 4th Qrt 1983
Ref vol. 20, pg 2355, Oxford

Winifred Knell
Age 88
birth yr 1895
Date 4th Qrt 1983
Ref vol. 20, pg 2355, Oxford

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Re: Winifred Emma Knell
« Reply #2 on: Friday 12 March 21 17:12 GMT (UK) »
Interesting, wonder if she really married Pollard and if they had any children, although she was 39+ at the time it still is a possibility.
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Re: Winifred Emma Knell
« Reply #3 on: Friday 12 March 21 17:33 GMT (UK) »

KNELL, WINIFRED  EMMA     SWAN 
GRO Reference: 1895  S Quarter in THANET  Volume 02A  Page 928

No marriage but it is possible that she had been married before such as below

Emma Knell   Married 1918 Lambeth, London
Possible Spouse:   Charles E Babbs

Births Sep 1918   
Babbs    Winifred E    Knell    Lambeth    1d   391
 Births Mar 1920   
Babbs    Charles A E    Knell    Lambeth    1d   856
 Births Sep 1927   
Babbs    Walter D    Knell    Lambeth    1d   475
 Births Sep 1931   
Babbs    Edward W    Knell    Lambeth    1d   380

However I cannot find a death for Emma Babbs, or Charles for that matter.

I did find the following death Winifred Pollard born 1895 death Q4/1983 Oxford, Oxfordshire Vol 20 Page 84

Sadly no GRO search for births available between 1957 & 1984.

No marriage to a Pollard either?

Hope this does not confuse too much but I am sure others may be able to add something.

Colin
PS Sorry for the overlap Monica
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Re: Winifred Emma Knell
« Reply #4 on: Friday 12 March 21 17:40 GMT (UK) »


No marriage but it is possible that she had been married before such as below

Emma Knell   Married 1918 Lambeth, London
Possible Spouse:   Charles E Babbs


She is with her children in 1939, born first qtr 1899
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Re: Winifred Emma Knell
« Reply #5 on: Friday 12 March 21 17:43 GMT (UK) »
Marriage image suggests she was 19 at the time of marriage in 1918 and father recorded as Edward Knell

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Re: Winifred Emma Knell
« Reply #6 on: Friday 12 March 21 17:45 GMT (UK) »
This Emma Knell is not Winifred Emma Knell.
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Re: Winifred Emma Knell
« Reply #7 on: Friday 12 March 21 17:52 GMT (UK) »
and 1939 in Finchley, on the 1939 her name is crossed out and Pollard is written

Normally when those adjustments are done there is date against them.  I wonder if she was just living with a Mr Pollard so no official change of surname.  That may also account for the death registration in both surnames.  If she died in hospital the death certificate may not help.
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Re: Winifred Emma Knell
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 13 March 21 10:26 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone for your help, her death date has been found but whether or not she married Pollard is questionable.
Kidney,Kitney Detling Stockbury Chatham. Wenham Biddenden. Waltham.  Pemble Birchington/St Peters. Sibun Medway Chatham/Gravesend