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Re: Felix Tomney Death 1890 Qld
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 18 March 21 23:42 GMT (UK) »

South Australian Almanac and Directory, 1865.
Willunga, Yankalilla.

TOMMEY, Felix, farmer. Willunga.

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Re: Felix Tomney Death 1890 Qld
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 18 March 21 23:52 GMT (UK) »

The Adelaide Observer, Saturday, 4th August 1866, page 1, advertising.

Auction, set for 10th August 1866 of 149 acres near Willunga of a property known as , Felix T0MNEY's.

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Re: Felix Tomney Death 1890 Qld
« Reply #11 on: Friday 19 March 21 01:30 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Gerry
I think he was selling land in Qld as well near the Westbrook Homestead.

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Re: Felix Tomney Death 1890 Qld
« Reply #12 on: Friday 19 March 21 01:57 GMT (UK) »

As early as the 1874/75 the Queensland Electoral Rolls Has Felix TOMNEY as a leaseholder at Westbrook. 

Maybe not a Government Lease but a private one from the owners of the Westbrook Homestead, that's my guess.

Also,

The Queensland Horse and Cattle Brands 1872-1899 has Felix TOMNEY, brand Certificate No 6379, 11th July 1873 for a run or farm "near Westbrook", nearest PO being Toowoomba.

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Re: Felix Tomney Death 1890 Qld
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 20 March 21 18:26 GMT (UK) »
Have you considered that your guy might have been a convict?
There is a Phoenix/Felix Tomlin/Townley/Townly/(Towney?) who was born abt 1817 in Belfast. Some of the events for this guy:


Probably some more events for the same person:

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Re: Felix Tomney Death 1890 Qld
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 20 March 21 23:19 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your information from Tasmania and his arrival in SA.  My connection is not good at the moment and will go through it all when it improves.

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Re: Felix Tomney Death 1890 Qld
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 21 March 21 07:15 GMT (UK) »
There are certainly some striking possibilities in the theory that Felix TOMNEY was the convict Phoenix/Felix TOMLIN.

The time line of his departure from Tasmania, his appearance in SA and marriage to Ellen COGLIN fits well.
I cannot find a definite death for Ellen in either SA or Victoria and the daughters would be quite young at the time of her attempted commital to the institution .

Felix persisted for some years attempting to sell his Willunga land From 1864
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/159527003
to 1868
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/207736101

It looks as if Felix left SA for Victoria.   
Land was granted to him  in Victoria in 1876 , although he was in Qld by 1874 1872 (see Gerry's note above) .Maybe he already had  the bronchitis and was seeking warmer air
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/226040071

In Qld the BERGHOFERs probably arrived in Moreton Bay in 1863
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/3161659

And Johannes died 10 years later

John BERGHOFER
01/06/1873
M. Catherine Belzer
F. Peter Berghofer
Reg 1873/C/1395

His widow, Elizabeth became Mrs TOMNEY.
Sue

Adding As a thought.
I do suspect that when it comes to an informant giving information about her deceased husband, there is often life details deliberately witheld.  It may have been "respectful " to not mention a convict past even if one knew about it and so details were just written  as "not known"
It was perceived a making s a nicer record for posterity  ;D   
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Re: Felix Tomney Death 1890 Qld
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 21 March 21 08:16 GMT (UK) »
I cannot find a definite death for Ellen in either SA or Victoria and the daughters would be quite young at the time of her attempted commital to the institution .

I’m wondering whether Ellen got stuck in an asylum after all and whether Felix started a new life without her ==>
There is an Ellen Tomney who died on 21 Oct 1895 (65Y) in Parkside, but whose residence had been Willunga!

PS I don’t think the following has been mentioned yet: Felix and Ellen seem to have had a son Felix who was 1 week when he died in Willunga on 24 Jan 1863.

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Re: Felix Tomney Death 1890 Qld
« Reply #17 on: Monday 22 March 21 00:26 GMT (UK) »
The following will help to confirm that the one Felix TOMNEY was in SA then Victoria and then Qld, if there was any doubt.

This Felix in QLD had a lame leg.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/76919127
Here from the SA Police Gazette 1875

 



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