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Hitting A Brick Wall With Logan family
« on: Sunday 14 March 21 18:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I'm hoping someone might have the time to help answer my query. A good few years ago I done a few photograph restorations on here so was hoping someone may be able to return the favour  :)

My dad doesn't know much about his family history so I've started looking into it for him but not sure where to turn next, in particular with one relative.

I opened an Ancestry account, used what I knew, used the hints available, rejected ones that weren't applicable etc. I'm not sure what the next steps normally are. Should I be looking at different sites?

In particular I'm stuck with my great grandad, Charles. I have a record of him in the 1911 census living in Gateshead and employed as a Cooper. The relatives match up and I think I have found him as a child in the earlier census records in Scotland. However he seems to vanish.

I've searched grave records etc and nothing. There is a 1919 death record that I've seen but not sure if it's him. A lot of his ancestors seem to be Scottish and Ancestry just seem to have transcripts of census records. Do I have to use the Scotlandspeople website to access the real ones?

I'm not looking for answers necessarily, just a bit of advice on how to proceed. Thanks for your time.

Regards
Mark Logan

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Re: Hitting A Brick Wall With Logan family
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 March 21 18:21 GMT (UK) »
SP is the website for parish records etc in Scotland.. you need to look at primary records so birth/marriage/death certificates, baptism/marriage/burial parish records..census are secondary records, they are useful but do not have the primary information you need

" I think I have found him as a child in the earlier census records in Scotland." so check for baptism parish records in that area where he lived  and then purchase the birth certificate which will prove his parents
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: Hitting A Brick Wall With Logan family
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 March 21 18:46 GMT (UK) »
I've found what I assume is Charles in the 1911 living at 5 Watson St Jarrow, Jarrow, Durham

Wife Elizabeth, children James, Alexander and Charles.  Elizabeth's maiden name appears to be Rose.

I looked up the marriage in Scotland's People:-

Married on 28th July 1899 Holy Trinity Church, Stirling - Charles Logan age 26, cooper and Elizabeth Rose age 26, mill worker.

His parents are Alexander Logan and Mary Ann Logan nee Rae.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Hitting A Brick Wall With Logan family
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 March 21 18:54 GMT (UK) »
This seems to be Charles's birth record on Family Search

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ5D-7B7
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: Hitting A Brick Wall With Logan family
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 14 March 21 19:13 GMT (UK) »
Wow, I didn't expect such a quick response and with such thorough information. Everything you've put forward are the relatives that I had provisionally put in my tree but without having those marriage records etc, I couldn't be certain.

Thank you very much for your help
Mark

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Re: Hitting A Brick Wall With Logan family
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 March 21 20:12 GMT (UK) »
Actually, it's interesting that you say his father was Alexander as I have Andrew married to Mary Ann Rae. I've got some more digging to do by the look of it  :)

Thanks
Mark

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 14 March 21 20:22 GMT (UK) »
My deepest apologies.  His father is ANDREW.  Don't know why I put Alexander  ::) A moment of forgetfulness probably.

In the birth record I gave you from Family Search his dad is Andrew as well.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Hitting A Brick Wall With Logan family
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 14 March 21 20:44 GMT (UK) »
If you track your Logans to Wigtownshire, give me a holler.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Hitting A Brick Wall With Logan family
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 14 March 21 22:19 GMT (UK) »
My deepest apologies.  His father is ANDREW.  Don't know why I put Alexander  ::) A moment of forgetfulness probably.

In the birth record I gave you from Family Search his dad is Andrew as well.

Not a problem. Thanks for clarifying. It has really helped