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Fitzgerald Newmarket 22 children Cork, Kerry Missouri
« on: Monday 15 March 21 15:01 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for help with my family tree. David Fitzgerald is the head of family, who was born approx. 1871 from Newmarket. He married Margaret Lane in 1895 from Tralee Kerry. He died in 1944 Glenamuckla Newmarket. Margaret was born in 1876 and died in 1959 Glenamuckla.

The 22 children are:

*** this list has been updated as much as I can in page 2 for clarifying some of the dates***

Catherine born 2nd March 1895. She died in Wales in 1974
Timothy born 1896- died in Missouri USA 1931
Michael born 1896- died in Missouri USA 1964
Thomas born 1898-
Richard (Dick) born 1898- died in Ireland (do not know where) 1968
John born 1900- died in 1983 in Michigan
Jeremiah born 1904- died in Missouri 1984
David born 1905- died in Missouri 1959
Margaret born 1906-
Mary (Molly) born 1908- died Mayo don't know what year
Nora born 1910-
Bridie born 1911 (this is my great grandmother)- I have just found her marriage certificate. She married John Murphy in 1931, John was from Kisheam. Bridie was from Glenamuckla. Johns dad was John Murphy and Bridies dad David Fitzgerald. According to the marriage cert David was a Sailor. Bridie had 4 children from her marriage to John Murphy. After Johns death (dont know when) she remarried and had more children.
Nellie born 1913- died in 2005 in Lyre Cork
Patrick born 1919-
Cornelius born 1920-
Lilly born 1922- died in 1938
Dennie born don't know
Nonie born don't know
Dannie born don't know
Jack who went to St. Louis, don't know when he was born
Hannah died in 1954 in Newmarket
Julie Ann- don't know anymore details

Some of the dates provided may be wrong by a year or 2 and likewise for the months.

Would really appreciate if anybody can help me. I know its a big family to try and track down but would be very thankful for any details. Thank you to anyone that can help.

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Re: Fitzgerald Newmarket 22 children Cork, Kerry Missouri
« Reply #1 on: Monday 15 March 21 16:19 GMT (UK) »
Margaret Lane could not have been born 1895 if that is the year she married David?  David appears to have been born later than 1866 given his age on the 1901/1911 census

David was a Tailor - not a sailor

Also - Are you sure Margaret gave birth to 3 more children sometime after 1922 as the 1901/1911  census gives her birthyear 1876.  Not impossible - just a bit less likely

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Clonfert_East/Taut_More/1118104/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Barnacurra/Glennamucklagh_West/420352/
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Re: Fitzgerald Newmarket 22 children Cork, Kerry Missouri
« Reply #2 on: Monday 15 March 21 16:38 GMT (UK) »
Sorry my mistake. I have a record of Margaret being born in 1876 Cnocane, Kerry. I’ve looked at those Cenus records, in 1911 it says that they had 13 children born and 13 children were still living at that point. I don’t know who the other 2 children are as Bridget was born (1st Sept 1911) after the data of completion of the census (April)

And according to the information I have Lily was born 1922. After Lily there was 5 children born which I’m pretty sure is correct.

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Re: Fitzgerald Newmarket 22 children Cork, Kerry Missouri
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 March 21 16:47 GMT (UK) »
Have you found the birth registrations of Margaret and all the children born up to 1920 on your list on Irish Genealogy.ie website?  https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ It has birth registrations 1864 (start of civil registration of births) -1920. If David was born after 1864 his birth may be on it, although not all babies were registered in the early years.
Were David and Margaret married in Ireland? If yes, you should be able to see their marriage registration on the same website and get names of their fathers from it. Once you have father's names you can look up birth registrations of David and Margaret and also look for death registrations of the fathers and hopefully get more information from them.
Have you found baptisms for David, Margaret and their children?
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Re: Fitzgerald Newmarket 22 children Cork, Kerry Missouri
« Reply #4 on: Monday 15 March 21 16:47 GMT (UK) »
I have a record of Margaret being born in 1876 Cnocane, Kerry.

Can you post a link to that record? At her marriage she was 'of full age' meaning that she was 21 or over, so born 1874 or before.
Her marriage-
David FITZGERALD married Margaret LANE on 9th January 1895 in Brosna RC Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1895/10522/5832548.pdf



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Re: Fitzgerald Newmarket 22 children Cork, Kerry Missouri
« Reply #5 on: Monday 15 March 21 16:54 GMT (UK) »

Margaret's father, Michael Lane and she's living in Knockanecrough (sic).This might be her parents in the 1901 census.....Knockafreaghaun.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kerry/Gneeves/Enockafreaghaun/1426646/
https://www.townlands.ie/kerry/trughanacmy/brosna/gneeves/knockafreaghaun/


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Re: Fitzgerald Newmarket 22 children Cork, Kerry Missouri
« Reply #6 on: Monday 15 March 21 17:00 GMT (UK) »
I do not sorry it is just something I was told. Although I think that neither of those dates provided for the parents are correct because of the census. The marriage certificate is correct as on David and Margaret’s birth certificate of Timothy, David’s dad was present and was called Timothy.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/transcript-civil/bd204a10047358?b=https%3A%2F%2Fcivilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie%2Fchurchrecords%2Fdetails-civil%2Fbd204a10047358%3Fb%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fcivilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie%252Fchurchrecords%252Fcivil-perform-search.jsp%253Fnamefm%253DTimothy%2526namel%253DFitzgerald%2526location%253D%2526yyfrom%253D1896%2526yyto%253D1896%2526type%253DB%2526submit%253DSearch

I have not found either Denis or Margaret’s birth Certificates yet on the website

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Re: Fitzgerald Newmarket 22 children Cork, Kerry Missouri
« Reply #7 on: Monday 15 March 21 17:06 GMT (UK) »
I have found all these childrens birth certificates:

Timothy, Richard, John, Jeremiah, Margaret (daughter), Bridget, Ellen (Nellie), have found a Julia in 1914 1st Oct which I didn’t know about, Daniel, Cornelius, Patrick, Catherine, Michael, Thomas.

Apologies I’m not very good on this site my replies may be all over the place

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Re: Fitzgerald Newmarket 22 children Cork, Kerry Missouri
« Reply #8 on: Monday 15 March 21 17:07 GMT (UK) »
And the parents house of Margaret’s might actually be hers. Her siblings names are also her own children’s names which is a common thing to do, thank you